panup
Listen the Momentum demo, Noel playing Coltrane. Superb stuff.  I wonder if he can improvize over Giant Steps chord progression...

I would imagine so, he seems to be a fairly accomplished player. It's not for beginners, for sure, but also not *that* hard really if you're comfortable with more traditional jazz progressions - it's just ii-V-I progressions in 3 tone centres, OK they're a major third apart which is unorthodox (and kind of the whole point) so it takes some stick time but after a while it starts to make sense to your fingerbrains... A good starting point is the bridge of Have You Met Miss Jones, which is kind of based around the same concept but isn't so daunting as it's typically not so fast, and you can relax with standard changes on the A sections in between ;)

aahladas
I don't know exactly what went down, but it had to be business and money...

There are a lot of factors, but the bottom line is pretty simple: Gibson could no longer afford to keep losing substantial amounts of money year after year on Cakewalk, and Cakewalk didn't develop additional income streams that could have offset the losses. 

aahladas
I'm buying a Mac and moving to Logic and Pro Tools, not because I want to, but because I don't want this to happen again, and I figure they'll be the last to evaporate.

I’d suggest getting Logic first, learning it to the point you know it well enough to work in it and only then consider if you need to spend money on Pro Tools.

Pro Tools has been trading on the reputation it acquired in the early days of computer-based digital audio as the “choice of professionals” for quite some time. All the “big” DAWs, Mac and Windows, are capable of turning out equally good results as far as audio is concerned. The differences between them come down to whether you find their interface and way of working suits you and how well they handle MIDI.

I already have Pro Tools, it's just a matter of installing it on the Mac. Logic Pro X is only $199, and I expect to use that for production. I've looked at it enough on YouTube and so forth, and tried GarageBand enough, to know that it should work for me. It also seems to be the closest to Sonar in terms of MIDI. The biggest thing I'm going to miss is ARA with Melodyne, but I tried Studio One and found enough things about it that made me nervous that I decided to go this route. Logic is a more complete platform, and I don't think Apple is going to abandon it any time soon. Plus, Sonar was the only one not available on Mac, so I'll have plenty of options, including Studio One.

aahladas
I already have Pro Tools, it's just a matter of installing it on the Mac. Logic Pro X is only $199, and I expect to use that for production. I've looked at it enough on YouTube and so forth, and tried GarageBand enough, to know that it should work for me. It also seems to be the closest to Sonar in terms of MIDI. The biggest thing I'm going to miss is ARA with Melodyne, but I tried Studio One and found enough things about it that made me nervous that I decided to go this route. Logic is a more complete platform, and I don't think Apple is going to abandon it any time soon. Plus, Sonar was the only one not available on Mac, so I'll have plenty of options, including Studio One.

Logic has the same thing as Melodyne built in. Well maybe not exactly the same as I've never used melodyne but they have pitch correction built in. I only tried it one time and it seemed pretty easy. The interface seemed similar in terms of representing audio pitches as notes on a piano roll like view and dragging them to the desired pitch.

Anderton

aahladas
I don't know exactly what went down, but it had to be business and money...

There are a lot of factors, but the bottom line is pretty simple: Gibson could no longer afford to keep losing substantial amounts of money year after year on Cakewalk, and Cakewalk didn't develop additional income streams that could have offset the losses. 

P&L. Who would've guessed?

WDI

aahladas
I already have Pro Tools, it's just a matter of installing it on the Mac. Logic Pro X is only $199, and I expect to use that for production. I've looked at it enough on YouTube and so forth, and tried GarageBand enough, to know that it should work for me. It also seems to be the closest to Sonar in terms of MIDI. The biggest thing I'm going to miss is ARA with Melodyne, but I tried Studio One and found enough things about it that made me nervous that I decided to go this route. Logic is a more complete platform, and I don't think Apple is going to abandon it any time soon. Plus, Sonar was the only one not available on Mac, so I'll have plenty of options, including Studio One.

Logic has the same thing as Melodyne built in. Well maybe not exactly the same as I've never used melodyne but they have pitch correction built in. I only tried it one time and it seemed pretty easy. The interface seemed similar in terms of representing audio pitches as notes on a piano roll like view and dragging them to the desired pitch.

Yeah, I'm aware it has tuning. From what I've seen it's nowhere near Melodyne in terms of tools or quality, but I'll have to try it to come to a full conclusion.

It does have the ability to set up a step sequencer for drums with instrument names like Sonar, and that's something I've used a lot.

whoever made the dubious decision to give away the kick ass lp plugs, drum replacer, and limiter really has some explaing to do 
 
so many people think it is dumb that it HAD to be a decision made by one person who I wildly speculate had some serious personal; issues or maybe just wasn't that great at business! While this was going on Sonar was being polished and augmented at an astonishing rate. Wonder what the developers thought of the business side of operations?

I will admit, I didn't totally understand the permanent license for existing users. Even though it benefited me, that had to be a huge hit to cashflow when going to a subscription model. Maybe the user base was already down, and they were hoping to add more, but it was an unusual move for sure. I don't think Adobe did that. A discount for one year or something would have made more sense.

If the Mayans had possessed a longer calendar do you suppose they would/could have predicted this outcome?