bitflipper
You got Noel in the deal, that's all I need to hear.

Absolutely - essential to carry Sonar forward and keep it compatible backwards.  Thank you Meng for speaking for BandLab and stepping into ownership of Sonar / Cakewalk I.P. We have been hoping for the best but planning for the worst for a while now. Feels good to have a path forward for us long time users. I've been using Twelve tone , Cakewalk products for over 25 years and I'm looking forward to investing in a future with Sonar. It's just too good to watch it vaporize.

I fail to see why people are treating this as a huge act of kindness. It's not.
This is not a gift, and it's not a reason for us to celebrate yet. This is about a couple of guys that are happy to have found jobs and a bunch of other people that think they can take a product that has been historically not profitable and turn it around.
I have moved on, and as a lifetime member I'm interested, but that's it. The new owners have to win me back at this point. I have expended time and money, and not a little bit of stress on Sonar over the years. If the new product comes out fairly quickly and they make a compelling case for returning I'll look at it. 
I don't give it up as easily as the rest of you.

ampfixer
I fail to see why people are treating this as a huge act of kindness. It's not.
This is not a gift, and it's not a reason for us to celebrate yet. This is about a couple of guys that are happy to have found jobs and a bunch of other people that think they can take a product that has been historically not profitable and turn it around.
I have moved on, and as a lifetime member I'm interested, but that's it. The new owners have to win me back at this point. I have expended time and money, and not a little bit of stress on Sonar over the years. If the new product comes out fairly quickly and they make a compelling case for returning I'll look at it. 
I don't give it up as easily as the rest of you.

They will not be taking the product that was not successful and turning it around. That product is history.
 
If I were BandLab looking for unique and innovative IP, Cakwalk's SONAR is a prime candidate I'd look at to mine ideas and functioning code from. I imagine they'll take what they can from SONAR and implement the things that separated SONAR from the crowd into their own DAW.


They can leave out the bits that had the worst reputation for flaws.
 

ampfixer
I fail to see why people are treating this as a huge act of kindness. It's not.
This is not a gift, and it's not a reason for us to celebrate yet. This is about a couple of guys that are happy to have found jobs and a bunch of other people that think they can take a product that has been historically not profitable and turn it around.
I have moved on, and as a lifetime member I'm interested, but that's it. The new owners have to win me back at this point. I have expended time and money, and not a little bit of stress on Sonar over the years. If the new product comes out fairly quickly and they make a compelling case for returning I'll look at it. 
I don't give it up as easily as the rest of you.

Oooo... Playing hard to get... you naughty tease

Well I did join up over at BandLab to see what they are doing. They have an online DAW and a phone app. Their DAW will benefit from Sonar's lineage and their app will benefit from Momentum's tech. If the new product is an enhanced version of what they have now, it won't interest me. It won't interest anyone that wants to work offline.
 
It's just wait and see. Right now you can sign up and use their stuff for free so you may want to check it out.

They can leave out the bits that had the worst reputation for flaws.
 

I, for one, am absolutely counting on this, even if it means in the short run that some features that I do like might be removed BUT only if they seem dedicated to put them back in, with an improved code, in the long ( or even very long) run. Anyways, we'll still have Splat to complete older projects...

ampfixer
I fail to see why people are treating this as a huge act of kindness. It's not.
This is not a gift, and it's not a reason for us to celebrate yet. This is about a couple of guys that are happy to have found jobs and a bunch of other people that think they can take a product that has been historically not profitable and turn it around.
I have moved on, and as a lifetime member I'm interested, but that's it. The new owners have to win me back at this point. I have expended time and money, and not a little bit of stress on Sonar over the years. If the new product comes out fairly quickly and they make a compelling case for returning I'll look at it. 
I don't give it up as easily as the rest of you.

It wasn't Sonar that wasn't profitable, it was Cakewalk as a company who were no doubt in part restricted in their efforts to turn things around by Gibson's own financial pressures.
 
The DAW market is pretty niche, so there's only so many people you can sell to. Sonar's user base is already huge, with a lot of mature users who may be reluctant (for whatever reason) to upgrade to the latest and greatest. I half include myself in this, as although I did upgrade, I was pretty much stuck into my Sonar 8.5 workflow and found Sonar X1/X2/X3/PLAT very frustrating in the way somethings were moved around. It's only now that my daughter has started school that I've been able to invest some time into learning it thoroughly, and I'm now appreciating just how good it is.
 
Sonar is a great product, and I'm personally delighted with the news.
 
M.

ampfixer
Well I did join up over at BandLab to see what they are doing. They have an online DAW and a phone app. Their DAW will benefit from Sonar's lineage and their app will benefit from Momentum's tech. If the new product is an enhanced version of what they have now, it won't interest me. It won't interest anyone that wants to work offline.
 
It's just wait and see. Right now you can sign up and use their stuff for free so you may want to check it out.

Yes, I joined* also and had a look around. I'm not sure their demographic (iPhone loop tinkerers?) overlaps much with Sonar's - more serious, often professional, musicians/studio owners. Their free 'DAW' is a toy. It would be nice to think they want to take Sonar and make it a 'premium DAW' option for which their members will pay for. But will their demographic want to do that? And if they did, might they shop around for a different 'proper' DAW? Or will New Sonar be re-launched to a separate marketplace (the pukka DAW market) and be another string to BandLab's bow?
No doubt all will become clearer in time!
 
* Not impressed so far. Joined the Blues community and there's no blues to speak of, but a lot of rap/bip-bop-beep pop loop-y junk there from deluded amateurs presumably posting all over the place to get 'discovered'.  Each community header includes: a notice:- "relevant posts only! Others will be deleted :-)" but that's not happening. It seems like a totally unruly playground to me full of wannabes. 

Just logged on to the Bandlab site-- It's everything I would hate about a "music" site. Defiantly not aimed at us old farts.  Oh well. as long as they keep our server running that's all that really matters. 

Some neysayers here. Going from certain death 2 days ago to atleast a glimmer of hope is progress of sorts imo. If it plays out to be awesome and great reamains to be seen, but you can be a glass half full/half empty kind of guy, and I choose the former until I am proven wrong. 
Lets see how things plays out before singing the doom and gloom anthem ...