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  • Hello from BandLab [Updated 21/3/2018] (p.56)
2018/03/07 01:19:22
bitman
I don't worry too much about LU.
 
I paid I think 199 maybe for LU and did get tempo extraction which is worth what I paid. I really like what they did with the piano roll there having all my midi strips right there to focus the prv at will. I honesty didn't know I needed that, no i cant image not having it. There are likely many more, oh 2x fx. yeah that makes a bit sonic difference. There is likely more.
 
So I feel like the bakers and I are square. It wasn't a whole lot of money and for me, SONAR march quite a bit forward from the day I went LU. It seems like the way to go without feeling hurt or disenfranchised which would limit me personally and distract me to do so.
 
 
2018/03/07 01:30:34
deswind
Whoever offered the lifetime updates owes the users who bought them for any misrepresentation or failure to honor the contract of sale.
 
But a new company does not necessarily acquire the liabilities of a prior company.
And my bet is that if Bandlab was forced to honor free lifetime updates, that the product will fail and it will be a lose-lose situation.
 
So the issue is one for Gibson, not Bandlab as far as I can tell.
 
On a similar note, this is a caution for consumers.  Many companies offer lifetime warranties, but the warranty generally does not last longer than the lifetime.
 
 
2018/03/07 01:55:38
John T
Saxon1066
 
The name "Cakewalk" can go.  That's something fancy ladies did in the 19th Century--walk around trying cakes for the town baking competition--US and British culture.
 
 


Perhaps this is pedantic of me, but this is completely wrong. The Cakewalk was a dance invented by newly emancipated slaves after the civil war. It has nothing to do with British culture, and nothing to do with cakes, and nothing to do with fancy ladies and baking. I don't want to labour the point, but you're dismissing a lot of fairly serious stuff here.

As to whether it will die out as part of the branding of Sonar or not, I'm sure it will die out. BandLab did not buy the company.
2018/03/07 02:16:13
abacab
HARDDRlVER

What is there not 'to get' when expecting to receive a package I paid for, just as anyone else's package. To deny a platinum lifetime the updates they paid for will actually make it worse on them than anyone else.
Whatever version you paid for, you expect to retain 100% of that package. Lifetime updates were part of the 100% of the package that was included in that version.
So because lifetime update purchasers chose to go balls out on their purchase...for some reason you think they don't deserve the same 100% of their package, as anyone else?!?!
L.U. purchasers jumped on the front of the wagon, but they're to be the only ones who actually get less than what they paid for?!?!

Just my two synths...



Lifetime updates were cancelled when Cakewalk was shut down by Gibson.  Those license agreements are with a dead company.
 
Any beef you have about updates needs to be taken up with Gibson.  Get in line with their creditors as they pick the bones ... 
 
The new owners of the former Cakewalk code owe nothing to former license holders.  They did not buy the company, or have any intent to continue conducting business as Cakewalk.  That is just the way things work when a company stops doing business.
 
Anything that BandLab offers to former customers for free is strictly as goodwill to retain customers, and is at their complete discretion and free will.
2018/03/07 02:27:12
ecafighter
Maybe "Moses" would be a good name.  Rescued then went on to be the leader.
2018/03/07 04:01:24
paul jenkins
WOW!!!..........bloody awsome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2018/03/07 04:21:43
paul jenkins
bitflipper
You got Noel in the deal, that's all I need to hear.


Yes, im so excited noel and ben got hired, lifetime updates continue.......wow and wow and wow.....best news ever!!!!
2018/03/07 04:42:46
Kamikaze
Cactus Music
Starting back a few pages ago ( before the annoying off topic)  this was mentioned and I've also read it in a few other threads scattered across this forum.
People are assuming that " The new DAW"  will be a continuation of Sonar. In other words the next Sonar Platinum  update.
I think they have made this very clear that this will not be the situation at all.  
X3e was the last of the "old way" Sonar was updated. A new number meant you had to pay, adding a letter was a free upgrade.    Since x3 we changed to rolling updates and you paid once a year to stay up to date.  all 4 versions of Sonar were constantly updated with new code that overwrites your currant version. You can keep the old versions for roll backs.  
November was the end of the line for this. So call it X4 instead of Splat and now we have what would have been X5 under the new owners. 
 
A totally new DAW running on Sonars code. 
What remains of that code can only be pure speculation but Noels comment was a great teaser and he seems to think we will all be pleased. Out of the last 5 pages that was the only comment worth reading and certainly cheered me up.  And the fact that this first release will be free to all of us is more great news. In the old days it would be the same as Cakewalk releasing X5 and saying it's free just because we like you. 
 




 
Did you see my response above regard Perpetual License? Do you agree that a cross grade is likely to be a Perpetual License?
 
"People are assuming that " The new DAW"  will be a continuation of Sonar. In other words the next Sonar Platinum  update.
I think they have made this very clear that this will not be the situation at all. "
 
I don't think it's that clear at all that, and you are also making your own assumptions. We all are.
 
From Noel
"I'm sure Meng will chime in but you can rest assured that SONAR is not going to be dumbed down. The addition of SONAR completes BandLab's ecosystem by adding professional desktop production to their mobile platform.
 
So to include everything that Sonar has developed, I can't see them creating an entirely new DAW, that's a massive undertaking. I suspect it will be more like the change from 8.5 to X at the most.
2018/03/07 05:28:36
melmyers

"lifetime updates continue......."



Who says lifetime updates continue? It would make no sense for BandLab to do that, since the money we paid went into Gibson's coffers. We cannot reasonably expect BandLab to continue to provide lifetime updates, because truly, once BandLab rebrands the product, Sonar Platinum's lifetime will be officially over. (In fact, Sonar Platinum's lifetime ended when Gibson dumped it weeks ago.)
 
 
2018/03/07 05:38:58
paul jenkins
melmyers

"lifetime updates continue......."



Who says lifetime updates continue? It would make no sense for BandLab to do that, since the money we paid went into Gibson's coffers. We cannot reasonably expect BandLab to continue to provide lifetime updates, because truly, once BandLab rebrands the product, Sonar Platinum's lifetime will be officially over. (In fact, Sonar Platinum's lifetime ended when Gibson dumped it weeks ago.)
 
Sorry, i mis-read about the lifetime updates continuing, the bit about lifetime owners will get the new software, with no crossgrade price etc
 




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