2015/01/12 11:42:23
Splat
Hi Gang...
 
What service or software do you use to create DDP files?
 
Cheers
 
Alex
2015/01/12 12:14:30
rumleymusic
The two stand alone plugins are from Sonoris and Hofa.  I use Hofa because it imports the CD image directly from Samplitude.  It is also cheaper.  Wavelab, Sequoia, Sadie, and Pyramix all have it built in.  
 
If you are uploading to Disk Makers, they will convert it to DDP for you with their Sonoris client upload service.  
2015/01/12 13:59:07
Beepster
Hi, Alex. I initially had no idea what you were referring to by DDP but after some googly mooglin' I see you are referring to what I always thought was just Redbook stuff. On my old system I had Wavelab however I'm obviously now using Sonar on a newer machine and don't really have access to WL anymore (long story).
 
So after poking around (and thank you for bringing this up because I figured I already had the tools to do this with Sonar and/or Pyro) apparently Reaper 4 and above will allow you do do this kind of work with a couple of extra freeware programs. Not sure how well it will work but based on a precursory look around the net it does seem to work for many people (not all... especially Mac users but I know you are a PC guy).
 
Here is a vid I found that shows how to do it. I have not finished the vid nor can I verify its quality/accuracy but perhaps it will give a resourceful fellow such as yourself some ideas.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNtnl09y5bY
 
I'd be curious to know (if you use this method) whether it works out for you.
 
Cheers.
 
PS: Does Pyro NOT do the Redbook stuff? I haven't tried yet but that was one of the reasons I picked it up. I thought it did.
 
2015/01/12 14:18:00
rumleymusic
DDP, stands for Disk Description Protocol.  It is a file format that is used for internet file transfer of Red Book CD's.  It is basically a folder that contains DATA and the supported files for CD Text and markers.  It is not an open source or free format so it has to be licensed, so it is found primarily in ultra expensive mastering programs.  Pyro, Sonar, CD Architect, etc, cannot create DDP images.  
2015/01/12 14:48:54
Beepster
Hi, Daniel. Thanks for the additional info however you should check out that vid I posted (which I just finished watching myself). Seems like the guy managed to get it all done with Reaper and some free plugins (even though he didn't mention them after the first couple minutes which I thought was weird... I guess it just ends up in the Reaper options or something). It does however seem to be a very complex process (he goes into the DOS prompt to complete everything... whoah).
 
Anyway... I have no idea and maybe those plugs are illegal but supposedly Reaper will do this. It just looks like kind of a pain compared to what I experienced with Wavelab... but I was just tagging stuff back then and really didn't know what I was doing. I probably screwed it up.
 
Either way I learned something useful in that vid that has nothing to do with music. I had always wondered why I never saw file extensions in Win 7 without openign the file properties page. Apparently MS helpfully has a feature to hide extensions unless you dig into the Folder options of the Control panel and uncheck it. So that was helpful.
 
Still it was a pretty darned interesting vid and if it works then I could see it being an inexpensive alternative to some of the pricier programs especially considering Sonar can technically produce properly mastered material from a Sonic standpoint. It just doesn't have the tagging stuff. Disappointed about Pyro not having that but I've still gotten lots of use out of it as a REALLY nice alternative to the simple Windows Recorder on my laptop or even Audacity (even though Pyro isn't a multitrack app but I didn't really need that).
 
Cheers.
2015/01/12 14:50:38
Jeff Evans
Studio One also has DDP export options built into its mastering pages.
2015/01/12 15:06:08
Beepster
Jeff Evans
Studio One also has DDP export options built into its mastering pages.




Interesting. I kind of have a purchase plan if I ever have some financial breathing room to pick up the base versions of major player DAWs (as long as they remain around $100) so I can fiddle around with them and maybe have access to some of the extra features each one has over the others. I freaking love X3 though and don't have any disposable cash so that's just a pipe dream for now.
 
That of course is totally OT. Hope you've been well, Jeff.
 
Edit: Come to think of it some kind of Redbook/dedicated mastering capabilities within the next version of Sonar would be something that would coax me to upgrade to the next version. One of the only other major things I've been able to come up with to move away from X3 for is an upgrade to Audiosnap. If I was cash flush I would just upgrade for the sake of it but I'm pretty darned happy as it is aside from some very minor "bugs" that couldn't even be called bugs.
 
2015/01/12 19:33:56
ChuckC
I record, mix, & master in Sonar then export the waves (no dither)   Open them in studio one professional to edit intro/outro fades, set track order, spacing, add artwork image, from there I dither as needed to export finalized high quality Mp3's, waves, CD Image, and DDP if the client needs them.  Some do, some don't.
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