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2017/12/13 09:36:35
marled
Very well written, I do totally agree Rod !
2017/12/13 11:37:36
SupaReels Music
Could have said AND can !!!
 
At the moment I'm looking at Studio one Pro cross-grade, having looked at Cubase Elements 9.5 again as a cross-grade … Nothing comes close to Sonar Platinum for ease of use and functionality. I have used Cakewalk for many years as it allows me as a songwriter to run free without the need to think about why this or that isn't doing what it should, sure I've invested time and money in Platinum and all of it, I feel, worth while.
 
The nearest to this software seems to be Studio one 3 Professional but it feels (at the moment anyhow) like a cheap knock off of what Platinum has become.
 
I agree this whole think of dumping a really good well written bit of software is not the way Gibson should have gone regardless of Cakewalk's customer base and it doesn't make sence. I hope they are in more trouble that they let on, because as you say this sucks … really sucks!
AND I don't apologise for MY rant
2017/12/13 14:00:23
mkerl
Anderton
 The reason why I'm using S1 as SONAR's successor is because it is fast once you learn the shortcuts and such, . . 
. . . . 



One of the first things I did with S1 was to download a Pdf - file with keyboard commands. Very helpful. And what I really appreciate: from the very first contact I was guided to a bunch of learning stuff. Tutorials, Videos, Demos . . . great to get a foothold. That's perfect marketing ;) Not to mention some independent websites with  tons of helpful material.
 
Cheers :)
2017/12/13 14:46:58
bnwitt
How is Studio One with control surfaces like the Mackie MCU?
2017/12/13 14:54:14
mkerl
bnwitt
How is Studio One with control surfaces like the Mackie MCU?


Presonus offers a pdf-file that covers mackie control support:


https://www-media-presonus.netdna-ssl.com/downloads/products/pdf/Studio_One_Mackie_Control_Support.pdf
 
Cheers :)
 
 
2017/12/13 16:16:32
jjj.fcc
In the last 2 weeks, I've updated my Studio One 2 Artist, installed Reaper (with a "sonar x1" theme) and bought Samplitude Music Studio 2017 and Mixcraft 8 Home Studio (at Steam, promotional prices).
 
First impression is the same as the thread's author. Nothing compares with Sonar's workflow.
 
Reaper - mainly because the skin/theme - was the best to use. I've made a song, but to be honest, I'm still not comfortable using it. The other 3, were even more difficult.
 
My decision is to keep using Sonar, until it dies or can't handle some important technology. But I'm not going to "freeze" my machine, hardware or software. I don't want to be "out of the world", in terms of musical stuff...
 
Sadly, I don't believe in any form of Sonar "resurrection". The team is dismounted. The people that understand each part of the code will soon begin to forget it. I work with computer programming. Old code is the worst thing a programmer want to deal with!
 
So, I'll keep using Sonar, but will try other DAWs as much as I can, even if my stomach aches, to find something that resembles the great DAW I've been using for so many years and now is gone...
2017/12/13 16:56:11
kevmsmith81
jjj.fcc
In the last 2 weeks, I've updated my Studio One 2 Artist, installed Reaper (with a "sonar x1" theme) and bought Samplitude Music Studio 2017 and Mixcraft 8 Home Studio (at Steam, promotional prices).
 
First impression is the same as the thread's author. Nothing compares with Sonar's workflow.
 
Reaper - mainly because the skin/theme - was the best to use. I've made a song, but to be honest, I'm still not comfortable using it. The other 3, were even more difficult.
 
My decision is to keep using Sonar, until it dies or can't handle some important technology. But I'm not going to "freeze" my machine, hardware or software. I don't want to be "out of the world", in terms of musical stuff...
 
Sadly, I don't believe in any form of Sonar "resurrection". The team is dismounted. The people that understand each part of the code will soon begin to forget it. I work with computer programming. Old code is the worst thing a programmer want to deal with!
 
So, I'll keep using Sonar, but will try other DAWs as much as I can, even if my stomach aches, to find something that resembles the great DAW I've been using for so many years and now is gone...




I'd say keep at it with Studio One.  I used the free version previously and found it excellent.  There are a huge number of shortcuts and I've actually found it to be less CPU intensive than SONAR is and a bit more stable generally (I get semi-regular audio engine dropouts in SONAR which I've not experienced in Studio One or Reaper).  In addition to this, there are loads of shortcuts that make for quick access to various features - you just need to learn them.
 
The reason I moved to SONAR was purely due to the ability to get a DAW where I can use 3rd party plugins, with the convenience of monthly payments.  Once I got used to SONAR (which funnily enough, I hated to start with due to how busy the interface is compared to Studio One), I was fine with it.  Familiarity breeds contentment when it comes to DAW usage.
 
I'm trying to figure out whether I have enough spare cash to take up the Studio One Crossgrade offer before it expires at the end of the month, as at around £110 in UK currency it's an amazing deal.  I already have the Voucher code from Presonus just in case.
2017/12/13 17:09:10
anydmusic
kevmsmith81
jjj.fcc
 
So, I'll keep using Sonar, but will try other DAWs as much as I can, even if my stomach aches, to find something that resembles the great DAW I've been using for so many years and now is gone...



Familiarity breeds contentment when it comes to DAW usage.
 


Is that another way of saying that we are institutionalised?
2017/12/13 19:14:19
jjj.fcc
kevmsmith81
I'd say keep at it with Studio One.
[...]
Familiarity breeds contentment when it comes to DAW usage.



The lack of VST support on Artist edition kills that option. This seems so bizarre for me... Other DAWs (even the entry-level ones) have VST support... My Sonar is Professional, not Platinum...I don't need the buzzers and bells of the "top" editions. But I DO need VST...
 
Obviously, the "best" DAW is the one we are used to, as long as it has all the minimum stuff we need (for instance: VST support...). 
2017/12/13 19:38:15
kevmsmith81
jjj.fcc
kevmsmith81
I'd say keep at it with Studio One.
[...]
Familiarity breeds contentment when it comes to DAW usage.



The lack of VST support on Artist edition kills that option. This seems so bizarre for me... Other DAWs (even the entry-level ones) have VST support... My Sonar is Professional, not Platinum...I don't need the buzzers and bells of the "top" editions. But I DO need VST...
 
Obviously, the "best" DAW is the one we are used to, as long as it has all the minimum stuff we need (for instance: VST support...). 




You can get VST support on Artist, but you have to pay for it as it's an addon. 
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