have you looked into softliesencer or am i just not making my point..as a coustomer..and i say a paying customer there obligation is to sell you a product you can use..no what if for insyance for some odd reason you can get the ilok to work..i know it will but.if you get upset enough like i did..they have an obligation to help you..this is what idid..i wrote a strong letter stating i wasnt able to get this eliecncer to work and if it wont then i want my money back..well guess what..they sent me detailed instructions then i called and they walked me through the whole process of creating a soft lisence..no ilok friends.like jim said piracy will happen maybe this is why they were hesitant to show me how to do this i dont know..im not smart enought to figure out how to use something without an ilok never mind with it.
 
ps..i speak fluent english and was born and raised here..but my keyboard was not..sorry about all the mis prints.

iLok will work for any software that has chosen to use ilok as their copy protection.  It will not work for other "dongle" type protection which is not iLok proprietary.

Jim Roseberry

How much piracy is abetted by having a singular working backup iLok??

 
Ol Pal... I completely agree
The only thing I can think to say in response...
How much piracy is abetted by using iLok... period? 
iLok doesn't prevent piracy... it's only an inconvenience to legit users.
That said... If you refuse to use iLok (on principal), you take a lot of nice plugins off the table.
Sic irony...  

True.

And those who are dead set against using an iLok are really missing out on some wonderful recording software.

Ivory for example...

I just received my ILOK2 for my VCC and transferred all my full time licenses from my ILOK1 to it, but NOT the demos or trials so you can "get rid of" demos in a left handed way 

Not being able to back up (for free, without some goofy service that costs money to back up an unwanted 'service' that costs money to guarantee the use of software that costs money that I paid) was one of the primary reasons I ditched anything with an external dongle of any kind.

Back when I was using Cubase (versions 2 & 3), I saw FAR too many threads about lost/stolen/broken dongles ending with the reality of the person needing to re-purchase software. Really? No way.

This is apparently better now in some ways... for now... but I honestly disagree that you're necessarily "missing out" if you give them up. For some that may be true, but I have zero dongles now, and rarely ever feel like I'm missing out on anything.

Now, internal dongles don't bother me as much. Take, for instance, UAD plugs... the cards in some sense are effectively dongles in that if you don't have the card, you don't have the plug... but at least in that case:
- the dongle actually does something
- you're not likely to lose or break it, since it's connected to the machine in a more forceful way than USB
- it's not as likely to be stolen stand-alone

But regular iLok style dongles make me nervous. I've lost them before. They turned up, eventually, but for that month's-long WTF period of literally needing to re-buy something I've rightfully purchased... sucked. I don't have another $600, and I'm a registered user, so... help me out here: NO.

Of all the copy protection schemes, a singular piece of hardware that theoretically might have thousands of dollars of stuff on it, and is little, and brittle... no way.

If they allowed back-ups, and/or stepped into the 21st century and had a way to de-authorize for a purchasing user FOR FREE, I'd think differently about them.

- zevo

I haven't tried or read about transferring licenses to a new ILOK(like vcc would require) can you pick and choose the licenses to transfer? Just dont transfer the demos?

You know... that would work if you have two (or more iLoks.  

iLok allow you to have one iLok backup, for some licenses, software publishers may crave their approval prior to the separate transfer. Licenses that require an approval are so marked once you select your iLok in step one of the transfer process and click next.

Resurrecting this old thread to ask a question.
 
I've got someone interested in buying my Slate VCC and iLok.  The VCC is the only thing I've got on the iLok.  Slate wants $30 transfer fee ... fair enough.  As I understand it, I can transfer an empty iLok without paying money to the iLok company.  But what I'm reading here is that there is no way for me to clear the VCC license from my iLok, and as a result will also need to pay the iLok company $25 for this "service".  Have I got that right?
 
One thing's for certain.  Even if the new Coolest-Thing-in-the-History-of-Computer-Sound VST requires an iLok, I shall be passing on it.  Never again!

musicman100

Jim Roseberry

And why can´t you delete licenses you don´t need? Strange.

Yeah... that annoys me (especially demos)

I haven't tried or read about transferring licenses to a new ILOK(like vcc would require) can you pick and choose the licenses to transfer? Just dont transfer the demos?

Yes ...you can transfer licenses from one Ilok to another, and you can pick and choose if you have 2.  
You can transfer licenses to another individuals Ilok for $25.
Ilok also offers an Online backup service to back up your licenses.

jma


I'm curious to know if I'm the last person on the planet who absolutely refuses to spend an additional $35 just to be able to run my software. (Never mind that the gizmo probably costs 10 cents to make.) I was all set to buy the Antares Mutator Evo until I saw it required an ilok. Call me hard-headed, but I'm not gonna do it. Not now, not ever.

If there are libraries you have to have to do what you want to do you'll either get one or not do that kind of project.  I need a high end orchestral library and the only way to get the top ones is to use an iLok.