You and stevestrummer both on the marriage block ? 


Better not speak of marriage lest it get back to the "R" word 

Goodnight all. I'd love to stay up and continue to chat with you guys but it's getting late over here in Blighty. I thought I'd mention that in case anyone replies to me directly and I don't want you to think I'm ignoring you.

I'll probably wake up tomorrow morning to find this thread has been deleted, which in a way would be a shame. Sometimes it's good to clear the air and then move on.

mike_mccue








I don't think I even know what it means. :-S

Well, since I (ironically) believe that BOTH the religious types AND the atheists have it wrong but let everyone believe what they want (and, no, there's really no reason for me to explain it), I can at least answer Mike's question!  The formula in Bit's signature is Einstein's explanation of the fourth dimension.  Believe it or not, but Pi is really the huge "unknown" that makes that formula possible.
 
Some other time maybe we can discuss why down, bottom and strange quarks have a -1/3 charge while up, top and charm quarks have a +2/3 charge (and, yes, the do threesomes to resolve their differences [;-] ).

I see no evidence or justification for me to believe in organized religion; but when I see a mountain or a beautiful sunrise I certainly can see why some people might believe in a higher power.
 
The agnostic point of view makes a little more sense (to me) but isn't that simply admitting I don't know.
 
The fact is, none of us know; We believe what we believe.
 
and I believe the more you think your beliefs are facts the more you'll be inclined to argue and be offended.
 
this is not directed at anyone; just an old man's random thoughts trying to make some sense of this thing we call life.

craigb

mike_mccue








I don't think I even know what it means. :-S

Well, since I (ironically) believe that BOTH the religious types AND the atheists have it wrong but let everyone believe what they want (and, no, there's really no reason for me to explain it), I can at least answer Mike's question!  The formula in Bit's signature is Einstein's explanation of the fourth dimension.  Believe it or not, but Pi is really the huge "unknown" that makes that formula possible.
 
Some other time maybe we can discuss why down, bottom and strange quarks have a -1/3 charge while up, top and charm quarks have a +2/3 charge (and, yes, the do threesomes to resolve their differences [;-] ).

 
 
MMMMMMMMMMMmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...................................... pie 
 
 
 

I hope they don't lock this thread. But I'm not counting on that as it takes very little for anything to spiral down.

Anyway, I'm actually quite happy for the opportunity to come clear and just express how certain things might make an atheist feel - w/o entering an actual religious debate. In a way, it's more about the way we all interpret the TOS.
 
I see a lot of positive things in this thread.

SteveStrummerUK

backwoods


Well, I'm going to Butt out because of TOS but a guy who ewears Dawkins and Hitchens badges on his lapel is like a guy with a kick me sign on his back.

 
Why would you want to kick me?
 
Because I don't happen to believe the same fairy tales as you?
 
I often wonder how many innocent lives have been needlessly snuffed out at the bloodied hand of religious intolerance.
 
But I do ask one favour - if you really do feel the need to physically express your intolerance of my views by resorting to physical violence, please don't kick me in the brain...
 
I use it a lot to think for myself.
 
 
  Can you tell us what religion at present day has the bloodiest hands? Please tell us.
 

After all the years I've been here I know for a fact that not a single
member knows if I have religious faith or an atheist. 

It's not the only part of my life that is personal and I don't discuss.
How others conduct themselves and the statements they make is theirs
and is of no matter to me. 
I just don't care what other people choose to believe or not and don't find
their words saying anything except about them. 


So...."does spacey have faith in a God or not?"... well that's just nobodies business but mine. TOS or not.

Rock on, ol pal. :-)

Bob - Can we please just not get into this? That part of the discussion is behind us. Why go back?


Can you resist the urge to re-open can of worms just so you can shove your dedication to God and your faith down everyone's throat? 


THAT is exactly what the TOS is there for.