2013/04/29 07:18:59
The Maillard Reaction


I got a snare.

It sounds pretty good to me.

I got a mic.

I put it near the snare head.

It seems to emphasize the "wood" with a deep rich sound. Sometimes I wish it sounded snappier.

I was jamming with some folks Saturday and I was drumming and someone had to sing so I sang while drumming.

I was singing through a SM58 and had it jacked up with serial compression in SONAR.


My snare sound freaking awesome coming through the vocal mic as "bleed".

Oh my.


Now I want to run my snare spot mic 2 feet away from the snare and "off-axis" too.








Does it ever get any easier?


:-)


Seriously.


I'm gonna find a new place for my official snare mic.






Any tips?




best regards,
mike 
2013/04/29 08:01:00
DW_Mike
I read an article about snare mic-ing somewhere and learned an option I hadn't thought of before.
An SM-57 aimed at mid shell from 6-12" away.
I actually like the sound.  

Here's a short video that shows the different mic positions and sounds.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mquEcgoXVvA 

Mike
2013/04/29 08:27:46
The Maillard Reaction


Thanks Mike!
2013/04/29 08:59:14
Jonbouy
mike_mccue


I'm gonna find a new place for my official snare mic.






Any tips?




best regards,
mike
 
Wherever it sounds most to your liking.
 
I'm assuming you've got a killer sound in your overheads already, well this one is just for re-inforcing that already killer sound right?
 
If you've got a nice AKG 414 lying around you can have some fun with that underneath too, again you don't need to be too close you just want to get that papery rattle to add-in to taste for your little ghost notes.
 
 
HTH
2013/04/29 09:09:11
Mooch4056



Hey mike .... If you don't all ready know about this google ..glyn johns drum recording ... 


I've was experimenting with t yesterday ... I must say I am impressed ... 


It uses three mics .... There is you tube videos all over .. One with even Glyn John himself ... 

Three mics ... It's pretty neat ... I am going to post a sample of my drum kit using it latter 



2013/04/29 09:17:39
The Maillard Reaction
Thanks guys.

I do really like the overhead sound, and that is why I think I'd like the spot snare mic to have more *snappy character* and a less full tone. The OHs have plenty of the full tone.

Hi Jon,
 I happen to have a spare 414 and have been planning on setting up a bottom mic ( I'm a minimalist trying to outfit the room for modern expectations of lots of spot mics so I'm trying to evolve) as matter of practice.
 I give that mic recommendation some special attention.

Hi Mooch,
 I'm a big fan of Glyn Johns and his work. Thanks for the tip!


 best regards,
mike  
2013/04/29 09:27:17
Jonbouy
mike_mccue


Thanks guys.

I do really like the overhead sound, and that is why I think I'd like the spot snare mic to have more *snappy character* and a less full tone. The OHs have plenty of the full tone.

Hi Jon,
I happen to have a spare 414 and have been planning on setting up a bottom mic ( I'm a minimalist trying to outfit the room for modern expectations of lots of spot mics so I'm trying to evolve) as matter of practice.
I give that mic recommendation some special attention.

Hi Mooch,
I'm a big fan of Glyn Johns and his work. Thanks for the tip!


best regards,
mike  
I'm a strong believer in where it sounds right rather than any idea of where it is 'supposed' to be.
 
The 414 is where I like to get some extra sparkle/sizzzle from around about the same frequency region your hi-hat sweet spot is, you then get some nice subtle rhythmic interplay between the hats and the snare on your ghost notes.  It also helps keep the high-frequency snare content seperate from any 'verb effects you might apply to your snare sound elsewhere. 
2013/04/29 09:50:09
Mooch4056



I wish I could afford a 414. Where do you guys get your money from? That would answer my drum sound question the best. 
2013/04/29 10:09:36
bapu
Where do I position the mic on my Alesis DM-5 Electronic Kit?

Mooch  I have a 414. I could afford it when I bought it. I couldn't afford it today if I wanted one. I feel for you.
2013/04/29 10:16:42
Mooch4056
bapu


Where do I position the mic on my Alesis DM-5 Electronic Kit?

Mooch  I have a 414. I could afford it when I bought it. I couldn't afford it today if I wanted one. I feel for you.

Put the mic 5 inches from your ass on a 90 degree angle ... That always makes the DM 5 sound great. 






As far as your statement about feeling me. For the 100th time.... STOP FEELING me. I am tired of telling you. 


Send me your 414. You don't use it anymore anyway. You're too busy printing stuff on tee shorts and trinkets. 




I am glad  you told me you have a 414.




LOL... I said trinkets. 




Bapu is a funny guy






Trinkets. LOL! 
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