ohgrant


 Thanks for the heads up on this.

ohgrant,

Your quite welcome !!

ModBod...


I have to agree...I've always been a fan of Waves plugins...I just never could afford them...
Their interfaces are always quite colorful and pleasant and well laid out...

This summer sale has been a HUGE godsend for me...

First, even though I was a huge fan, up until recently they were still 32 bit, so I wouldn't buy them...
Then V9 came out and are 64 bit..so THAT, for me was a BIG stepping stone..

Then the Summer Sale came...and FINALLY, after some well thought out and thorough planning...

I got $2500 worth of plugs for less then $500...that's 80 percent off...

I had to sacrifice a LOT of other things..but, it was worth it (to me)

I want to pick up Vocal Rider and Aphex before the sale is over..


And, I have to put my pennies away for X2...but have a few months for that...

Can I ask what folks think of Vocal Rider? Does it bring anything else to the table which compression and/or automation can't?

zippsinc


Can I ask what folks think of Vocal Rider? Does it bring anything else to the table which compression and/or automation can't?

Not really zipps...


It's more a time and work saver then anything...set your limits and it does the leveling for you..

But nothing that you can't do yourself by editing the gain envelope and automating...


And if your time is money..then ...it's probably a good investment...

I usually use it to do the job before the compressor , with this ,the comp will work less and it results in a more natural sounding vocals (i also use it for other material if it works !!) ....

Zo


I usually use it to do the job before the compressor , with this ,the comp will work less and it results in a more natural sounding vocals (i also use it for other material if it works !!) ....

+1

Waves August Promo...

Gold Bundle or Gold Bundle Upgrade 50% Off.  Gold Bundle is $399 and upgrade is $250
AudioDeluxe price is $297.99

And the Waves V-Series Plugs are now included in Gold Bundle....Just the V-Series is $375

Man, you Waves guys are really plugin junkies  ;-)  So, to stir the pot a little, why do I need this bundle full of compressors, EQ's and verbs when I already have a boatload of said plugs?  Are these plugs that much better than, say, IK's plugs, or Sonar's offerings?  I get the "30 plugs for $300" argument, and unfortunately I don't have a voucher to get me a better deal than that (which is almost criminal), but I am having a hard time justifying the expense just for MaxxBass, PAZ, UltraPitch, and maybe GTR3, which I probably don't have an equivalent for, and a whole complement of compressors, EQs and verbs, which I probably already have covered.  Money is not the issue ... why I really need these plugs is ... somebody help me out here!

leapinlizard

Waves August Promo...

Gold Bundle or Gold Bundle Upgrade 50% Off.  Gold Bundle is $399 and upgrade is $250
AudioDeluxe price is $297.99

And the Waves V-Series Plugs are now included in Gold Bundle....Just the V-Series is $375

Man, you Waves guys are really plugin junkies  ;-)  So, to stir the pot a little, why do I need this bundle full of compressors, EQ's and verbs when I already have a boatload of said plugs?  Are these plugs that much better than, say, IK's plugs, or Sonar's offerings?  I get the "30 plugs for $300" argument, and unfortunately I don't have a voucher to get me a better deal than that (which is almost criminal), but I am having a hard time justifying the expense just for MaxxBass, PAZ, UltraPitch, and maybe GTR3, which I probably don't have an equivalent for, and a whole complement of compressors, EQs and verbs, which I probably already have covered.  Money is not the issue ... why I really need these plugs is ... somebody help me out here!

Different plugs bring different "character" and "colorization" with them..

The Waves plugs are quite good....I have T-Racks Deluxe, and the White 2A and Black 76.  They also are quite good.

It's basically a plethora of tools....because, when mixing, you never know what is going to add the "right" character to
fit nicely in the mix.

GTR 3.5 is amazing, to me....I only played my guitar through a few of the presets...but it definitely sounds like a mic'd guitar amp.
You get the inflection of the speaker and of the picking, etc....I like it alot.
I also have Guitar Rig 5, which I like a lot....

I only have Amplitube 3 Custom Shop....I'm not a BIG fan...but it serves it's purpose...

It's the same with these.....If you already have an Amp sim.....then why have more?


Basically because EACH is "sonicly" different and has it's own "character"

All in all...I find the Waves plugs to be the most "pleasing" to my ear..

BTW...I just picked up Breeze (a Reverb) by 2C Audio.....all I can say is WOW!!!  I just plugged in the first preset..and HOLY MACKEREL...awesome... 
I guess you could ask the same question about Reverbs...why have a million when Perfect Space is just fine...it's their "Sonic Character"
that sets them apart...

But when you consider that some of the worlds biggest producers, JJP, CLA, Kramer, Maserati, all endorse and USE Waves Plugs
both LIVE and in the Studio...that has to say something....at least I would think...

I just watched the CLA interview, and he used Kramer HLS Channel on a track in a song he was mixing...as well as his own plugs

They could use whatever plugs they want and whatever outboard gear they want...and they use Waves...

So, it's all a preference thing...but I've gotta tell you...they sure bring a lot  of "tools" to the table

why I really need these plugs is ... somebody help me out here!

I would say to demo them as I am doing and if you think they are making things better or getting you to a finished product quicker then consider buying them at this good price.


I personally, like the GUI and some of the specific tools I would use to correct problems or enhance a track.  Waves have been touted as some of the best plugins around for a long time.  I happen to like companies who have been around for a long time because they have something to lose if they don't meet customer expectations.  Waves + 64 bit + new authorization system (doesn't really matter now)+ quality + affordability + usefulness + need is what's driving my decision.

Thanks for the responses ... you guys bring up a number of good points.  I watched a lot of the YouTube videos regarding Mastering with Waves, and some were helpful while others were a little confusing.  But, they show what can be done with some of the Gold Bundle tools, which I found useful.  However, I didn't see a lot of difference, particularly with respect to problem correction, that isn't already addressed by other tools that I have.  Sonic signatures and enhancement, on the other hand, are things that are harder to evaluate without demoing the actual plugs, so perhaps that is where I need to go next.  I just may end up in this boat before it's all over with ...

Mod Bod

why I really need these plugs is ... somebody help me out here!

I would say to demo them as I am doing and if you think they are making things better or getting you to a finished product quicker then consider buying them at this good price.


I personally, like the GUI and some of the specific tools I would use to correct problems or enhance a track.  Waves have been touted as some of the best plugins around for a long time.  I happen to like companies who have been around for a long time because they have something to lose if they don't meet customer expectations.  Waves + 64 bit + new authorization system (doesn't really matter now)+ quality + affordability + usefulness + need is what's driving my decision.

+1


I always try to demo things before I buy them....

Leapin,

That's a great thing to do.....because, ultimately, they have to help YOU!!!