say if i made some really cool digital audio shirts,i started a thread saying,"hey guys check out these shirts for 20%off,youll love them.
what would you say to that?..be honest.

Those that find this dialogue offensive are in the vast minority,

You may be surprised there.

I note this thread had already been reported to a moderator before I did.  I get many PM's expressing support from people that don't want to run the gauntlet of nastiness that spews forth whenever anyone brings it up, but feel exactly the same way.

chuckebaby


say if i made some really cool digital audio shirts,i started a thread saying,"hey guys check out these shirts for 20%off,youll love them.
what would you say to that?..be honest.

Who me?

I'd report it as spam, like I do regardless of whether it is iMedia convertors, running shoes or IK Multimedia doing the spamming.

So in my opinion, you're no different than Scott Garrigus and his Sonar Power books/website postings.

Scott doesn't spam he answers questions people firstly raise about his book, which also has been an official product available in the Cakewalk store for many years, in fact Obi is the ONLY regular spammer here aside from a small patch vendor whose posts don't attract much attention but also get reported as spam anyway.

Kreative


I think the type of "spamming" that is most offensive is a robotic mass dumping of information. 

IMO, Obi is not injecting himself in such a manner, but is instead offering a dialogue that leads to conversation, questions and answers. This is not offensive, but useful conversation resulting in a developing dialogue that many people are genuinely interested in. 

It is quite clear that may people are benefiting from these conversations with Obi, and desire to have him respond to their questions.

Those that find this dialogue offensive are in the vast minority, and can easily ignore the conversation by  quite simply  AVOIDING the thread altogether.[Is that easy, or what?]

Perhaps, as on other forums, there could be a dedicated place for such personal discussions as these that allow software companies to more intimately converse with users to answer questions and make simple announcements about products. Instead of guessing about what is happening we might instead know what is happening, and make our decisions based on informed conversation rather than mere speculation.

Thanks for the support. I do my part on these forums and even recommend other companies products when it fits the OPs needs. From audio interfaces to hardware. I don't mean to intrude and by all means I left for a while but people were still asking for my presence. Though a few may not agree with me posting here I don't understand why they take time to discredit me, I would think it'd make more sense to ignore me. To each their own, I just wanted to share this deal. Ampeg SVX for under $50 and AmpliTube Fender for under $100 is a steal and the first guitar/bass programs from IK that I tried. I still use them all the time too. :)

As I stated in a earlier post, spammers (you) either haven't read, don't understand or choose to disregard the ToS. Which one is it? I'm guessing the latter. And please tell me, how would blatant spam be dealt with at the IK forum? You and I know the answer to that. The reason we don't ignore you, is to do so would condone your behavior.

Some people seriously need to get a life!  TOS Nazis are worse than "spammers".

Jonbouy

Those that find this dialogue offensive are in the vast minority,

You may be surprised there.

I note this thread had already been reported to a moderator before I did.  I get many PM's expressing support from people that don't want to run the gauntlet of nastiness that spews forth whenever anyone brings it up, but feel exactly the same way.

Perhaps their are more people that find this simple dialogue offensive. That should be taken into account.

But this is the software forum, and we are frequently talking about software of all types beyond what Cakewalk offers. I think that it might serve everyone better if another forum category were offered simply to announce only effects and VST plugs and discuss them [not other DAWs]. We do sometimes have other software vendors and developers on the forum from time to time, and it does offer some useful conversation, as I'm sure you'll agree. There is always room for a compromise that will please everyone, more or less. Don't you think so, Jon?

There is always room for a compromise that will please everyone, more or less. Don't you think so, Jon?

Absolutely, there are plenty of company representatives on the forum that will join in and enlighten an already existing conversation on one of their products.

It is a shame that Obi is the only one of those that goes full out starting spam threads such as this one, he also likes to play to the divide and actually cause trouble as well and then plays the role of hapless victim and persecuted forum good guy.  Then he says he's 'back by popular demand'...ROFL.  'Back'?  Who sent him away?  Did he ever leave?

The people that are reacting to it by flagging this up are not the villains, look to the source.  This forum has stayed clean over the years by having a no advertising policy, you only have to look at boards that are over-run with spam now because somebody let them slide in the first place.

This is an awesome place for peers to share their experience with others regarding third party apps, it's the only place specifically for Cakewalk users.  I'm not going to stand by and let some liberty taking touter screw it up without saying something about it.

Obi is free to fall into line at any time just like the rest of the vendors that frequent and contribute to this board, HE chooses to continue to cross the line as this thread clearly shows.

all i saw, is what the moderators probally saw ..60% OFF Ampeg SVX.. WOWW!! whether the post was an ad/spam or whatever. it was a nice heads up and good lookin out. and it is very relative to alot of members..

you self-appointed forum hall monitors kill me man. if the moderators didnt concern themselves with the thread, then theres no need to police and tattle tale on grown people on the Non cakewalk Software forum. no disrepect, it just seems so petty.