Kreative


Even Bapu, has a positive outlook on this ugly beast. With Bapu's trademark endorsement, I can almost be assured of quality. Now if Yoropal or Bitflipper were to give their blessings, there could be no doubt that this is the pure gold of montezuma.

I only endorse the concept. Yes I own it but I honestly have not used it yet. I only plan to use it when I want to write something outside of my comfort zone (i.e. say I really wanted a Country or Jazz like tune... then I'd need a tool like this).


I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure bit and myolpal are not users of this "tool".

bapu

twaddle
Gosh I'm just amazing when I come to think of it  

Steve

Ya, so I've heard
(from you)

It's always best from the horses mouth.
Which ever end that may be.


Steve

No, I mean composed arranged, programmed and played by me in the style that is of my own making

I actually feed my own styles into Biab not the other way round, all the styles that come with it are too cheesy IMO.  All the arrangements are my own and the progressions I'm after I couldn't actually work out on the keys or guitar, so that's the extent of the job it does for me.

Once I've got the arrangement worked out then it's ALL down to me, there's very little, if anything, that comes out of BIAB that ends up in the final project.

Some use it to generate final output too and that's OK by me as well, it's a tool just like a guitar is a tool and some also make better use of that one than others do as far as I can tell.

Using it for 'cheating' if that is even possible, would be like cheating at solitaire, pointless.  BIAB is far from pointless and it has a myriad of uses from generating progressions to providing backing to hone your puritanical traditional musical chops to and about everything in between.

You deny yourself a broad view of anything the minute you put blinkers on.  Being creative to my mind is being open to possibilities, not limiting them.

Jonbouy

No, I mean composed arranged, programmed and played by me in the style that is of my own making

I actually feed my own styles into Biab not the other way round

See? It's statements like this that also made me buy it. Now when I get the time, I'll need to dig further into what is a 'style' for me BIAB.

Admittedly I've not spent any time with it and it was quite a few years ago that my brother tried to persuade me I needed it.
His whole selling point though was to say, look you can put the chords to one of your songs in and have it play in a blue grass or reggae style,
to which I replied, why the hell would I want to do that? 

Steve

timidi


also, (especially if you're into standards), some of PG's other products such as the 'the jazz pianist' are really nice.

they had 'the jazz guitarist' at one point. seems to have disappeared though. great stuff in that one too.

I still use the jazz guitarist. It won't install on Windows 7 but I got it to work in "virtual mode"

I don't use it myself, but know some people that do for putting ideas together, instrument practice, etc. In the past I've certainly put together many of my own backing tracks for, for example, practicing guitar, etc. But even simple things can be time consuming... even a simple 8 bar thing involves plugging in a decent midi drum part, layer a bass part, record or loop in some rhythm guitar, an organ or pad, etc... even for an all MIDI backing track, it turns into a an hour, two hours, whatever... Then if I want the same or similar progression in a different style, geez, that's a whole new project... Also, for quick and dirty song writing.... sussing out whole song structures, lyrics, melodies, I can see how it would be very useful...  

twaddle


Admittedly I've not spent any time with it and it was quite a few years ago that my brother tried to persuade me I needed it.
His whole selling point though was to say, look you can put the chords to one of your songs in and have it play in a blue grass or reggae style,
to which I replied, why the hell would I want to do that? 

Steve

Good reply, I'd probably make the same one, but as I said that's not what it's about for me.

Jonbouy

twaddle


Admittedly I've not spent any time with it and it was quite a few years ago that my brother tried to persuade me I needed it.
His whole selling point though was to say, look you can put the chords to one of your songs in and have it play in a blue grass or reggae style,
to which I replied, why the hell would I want to do that? 

Steve

Good reply, I'd probably make the same one, but as I said that's not what it's about for me.

I read once about this little group from Liverpool who used to experiment with all types of styles, tempos and time sigs for their songs. Probably just a passing fad, roight?

bapu

Jonbouy

twaddle


Admittedly I've not spent any time with it and it was quite a few years ago that my brother tried to persuade me I needed it.
His whole selling point though was to say, look you can put the chords to one of your songs in and have it play in a blue grass or reggae style,
to which I replied, why the hell would I want to do that? 

Steve

Good reply, I'd probably make the same one, but as I said that's not what it's about for me.

I read once about this little group from Liverpool who used to experiment with all types of styles, tempos and time sigs for their songs. Probably just a passing fad, roight?

Yes I believe they used some new fangled piece of machinery that was apparently in great abundance at the time, think it was called a FABtabulous talent machine or something like that.  Then Mick Jagger got hold of one and all hell broke loose 
Steve