Too many iconic people are dying every day. Good or bad it just makes me sad and reminds me that I'm getting on myself.

She was somebody's husband and mother, history will judge her value as a leader.

I'm convinced of that whoever had been in power instead of Thatcher during those years would have had to do approximately the same painful decisions that she made. IMO the hard fact is that UK had huge capasity of totally outdated industry and world was changing. UK was in the very frontline of industrialisation, and reached the inevitable adaptation phase in frontline as well. Other countries went through the same during the following years.

I'm not saying things could not have been done somehow more smoothly, but painful change was inevitable, Thatcher or no Thatcher. It's just comforting to have someone to blame.

I agree Kalle. I live in New Zealand and the Government who decided to implement our own Thatcherite policies (what we call Rogernomics) in the 80's was our left leaning government. And a NewZealand left wing government is very left wing indeed. For example, our right wing government is more left wing than Obama. Actually, I don't think they wanted to do it, the IMF ordered them because we were bankrupt. 

RIP... a strong leader and she wasn't afraid to stand up for what she believed. I cannot think of a leader in the western world who is anywhere near her caliber.

J

The sheer bloody minded hysteria and triumphant celebration coming from the left over this old lady's death is nothing short of disgusting. It's like watching a chimp's tea party. I just saw a cartoon in The Guardian, a so-called "intellectual" newspapers, depicting her in hell. The pro-terrorist scumbag George Galloway has said some pretty disgusting stuff, and my Facebook feed has been full of gloating posts from overgrown militant has-beens like Terry Christian (I think he was on the TV like 20 years ago or something) and Billy Bragg. Honestly you'd think they were oppressed victims of a totalitarian 3rd world despot and not smug latte-drinking tosspots from Islington who have never known a single second of real suffering in their lives. 

And just a few weeks ago, these same people were urging us to "have some respect for the dead" when Hugo Chavez died. It'll be the same when their hero Fidel Castro dies as well. 

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I think your posts speak for themselves Jonbouy. 

Well just have a look at your last one for some real good irony...
 
I'm saying nuthin', I'll just let you carry on shooting holes in your ceiling there, it's more fun.
 
Actually the media coverage here has been very dignified in contrast to the impression you are spilling out there.  The amount of gloating has been minimal even from those who had tangible greivances like those who lost children in her single-minded quest for personal glory in an adventure to preserve the soveriegnty of many less folk than perished in a conflict that was caused by the British governments complacency and forgetting to check they had left the back door unlocked so anyone could have walked in. 
 
Some figured it would take a lunatic to attempt to take those islands back after troops walked in that open back door.  They were probably right.  She made many mistakes that have become clear over the course of history, seeing Mandela as a terrorist notably being one, and rightly some don't have a rose-tinted view.  She'd have gained a lot more universal respect had she been less reluctant for turning.  She may well have ended up being truly great in the same way as Mr Mandela's eventual passing will undoubtedly be percieved by a large majority.
 
She cut a very sad figure ultimately, dumped and further sidelined by her own party over time, and I can't think of anyone I know that would delight in that or attempt to make any mileage out of it.
 
So I will re-iterate with full sincerity.
RIP Margaret.

She was Great with a capital G in my opinion. And all politicians get rolled in the end anyway- that's the way politics works. 

Funny looking around the internet today and seeing people talk about reagenomics and thatchernomics  as causing the recent global finicial  meltdown. I thought this modern one was about bad debt.

the General Belgrano?  That is one Phoenix that ain't gonna rise.

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She was Great with a capital G in my opinion. And all politicians get rolled in the end anyway- that's the way politics works. 

Funny looking around the internet today and seeing people talk about reagenomics and thatchernomics  as causing the recent global finicial  meltdown. I thought this modern one was about bad debt.

I can't find fault with that opinion.  But then you're not here transpatently promoting a right wing agenda by calling anyone with a differing view a Pinko, Castro loving, tree-hugging, BBC employee, like that other fella...   I would say though that many politicians move on to become elder-statesmen (women) and she consp-iciously didn't given her notable term in power, I think it was her own party that became embarrassed by her and felt it was a vote winning move to turn their backs.  With friends like that she didn't need enemies.
 
As for the economy, I think you'd have to look at more than Thatch or Ronnie to pin-point what messed up this time.  Economics however isn't my strong point as I've managed to gain so little hands on experience so far in this lifetime.

Jonbouy,

you know what Karl Marx's mum said.  She wished her boy would write less about  Kapital and earn more.  Mothers, never satisified.  ;-)

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