2014/12/05 20:33:29
Rimshot
Anyone know how they recorded 50's groups like these cuts from Elvis on cuts where you can't see the mics?
I like the mix between drums and bass.  Maybe an RCA ribbon mic.
There was so much energy with these old recordings.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtJe9duEs7Y
 
Edit:  Here is the same clip as above but is in sync:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdDIKONSDUM
 
Here is a better recording of his early stuff:0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHdM_pmq_ps
 
 
2014/12/06 14:42:38
wst3
The 50's might be a tad too broad a range in this case, the recording industry was growing, and driving changes (improvements) in technology at a rapid pace.
 
Ribbon microphones did rule the roost, at least in the USA.
 
Stereo recording came about somewhere in the mid 1950s, prior to that it was all mono, and some studios would mix several microphones together to create that mono track - but mixers were pretty rare too.
 
The studios and control rooms were pretty crude by today's standards as well, well, that's not entirely fair, some of the sound stages of that era were really quite remarkable, but the smaller studios were not.

With all of that seemingly working against them they still made great recordings!!
 
Many of the recordings from the first half of the decade were made with a single ribbon microphone direct to disc, which in this case was wax master<G>. As the decade wore on they did start using more microphones, and they did start to record to stereo (actually left, center, and right).
 
You might want to do some surfing for information about Harry Olson, Bing Crosby and Les Paul, all of whom had quite a bit to do with early advances in recording, and happened to be smart enough to capture some of that history.
2014/12/06 15:53:14
Rain
That rehearsal cut of Rip It Up does sound quite good indeed. :)
 
You know, to this day, one of my favorite sounding album is Elvis' Christmas record. The whole thing sounds so simple and so beautiful. That snare drum after the first vocal harmonies in Santa Claus is Back in Town - man...
2014/12/06 16:35:56
Rimshot
It's watching Elvis sing but there no apparent mic by him. So I think they had a mic in front and the band played soft enough so that the vocals would come through.

I will check out that tune Rain.
2014/12/06 17:22:38
AT
Milli vanilli
2014/12/06 18:52:27
Rain

 
That's Christmas w/ an attitude! :P
2014/12/06 19:01:39
quantumeffect
I don't think the audio and video in the top video from the television show are sync'ed correctly.  I think I hear the clapping on 2 and 4 but see it on 1 and 3.  Also, there are two short snare rolls fairly early on in the song (at around 0:25), the first one is visually almost in time but the second one is off. 
2014/12/06 20:11:32
optimus
At first I thought that TV clip was perhaps mimed, as things are slightly out of sync. However at the end when Elvis starts to speak, you can hear the buzz of the amplifiers come through.
 
So however it was done it was pretty good. Maybe the song was played live along with the record, but the audio from the record was sent to air, not the live performance. Then perhaps not.
Just watched the video again and there is a part where the vocal fades a bit and then returns. Who Knows...
2014/12/06 20:26:29
Karyn
I'd say it was totally mimed, there is accurate lip sync when he talks at the end, but the rest of the time it is clearly out, and the band is a whole beat out most of the time.  The noise you hear is just studio noise, not the guitar amps.
 
Compare to this one below.  You hear the thump as he grabs hold of the mic, and the bass player in the background is in perfect time...

2014/12/06 20:50:56
Rimshot
Rain

 
That's Christmas w/ an attitude! :P


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