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2012/07/12 21:00:27
Jonbouy
vintagevibe


cclarry


IK Obi


vintagevibe


cclarry



ViintageVibe

Did IK get banned?  Or what??  

He got dissed.

It was made very obvious that I wasn't welcome. So my superiors and I talked and decided to withdraw from these forums. I'm still lurking though because I still like the conversation here. Especially in the songs and  coffee house sections I have been frequenting since before starting at IK under different username. 

That, to me, is VERY unfortunate.  First, why would they not welcome you here?  You have as much right to be here, to share your opinions, and to promote your firm, as anyone else does on this forum.  This is an OPEN forum, and if Cake feels that you are stealing their business or "dissing" THEIR product, then maybe they should address THEIR OWN ISSUES about it before "chastising" or "banning" you.  

We are ALL (I hope) adults here.  We have the ability to make up our own minds, based on whatever info is provided.  I feel that to 
make someone feel unwelcome because of who they work for is, on Cakes part, on anyone else's for that matter, a sure sign of insecurity
and immaturity on their part.

Let's grow up people.  Stop the "Politic-ing" and get on with producing HIGH QUALITY products.  THEN let US decide what we like and don't like.
It's OUR DECISION - NOT YOURS!!!  AND....let everyone have their say...FREEDOM OF SPEECH.  You don't have to like it, or respond to it, or even READ it for that matter.  But don't make someone feel unwelcome because they are expressing their opinion.  I'm sure that the Cake people would
be welcome to do the same on the IK forum (I would hope).  We all should have the ability to "agree to disagree" and just get along and carry on.

So, IK Obi Wan Plugin Kenobi, you will be missed, but glad to know you're still lurking about...

I don't know the WHAT is that brought this about.  But from my experience with your posts, I think it's a "competitive" fear - and that, to me, is sad.
If the products you make "hold up" to critical scrutiny....then you have NOTHING to fear IMHO.

Well said.  Some posers here, especially one, were very rude and certainly not acting like adults.  I like IK reps here and it's a shame how he was treated.  One guy was seriously freaking out because he though it was spam.  Some people really need to get a grip.

LOL. Who are ya!?

Flag up where I was rude to Obi, or get a grip.

This forum is outside the jurisdiction of IK's marketing supervisors.  There are as many dissing him as there are defending him here. It's quite simple he stops flouting the TOS in relation to advertising and I no longer have need to flag it up to the moderators of this board?

I enjoy his normal interaction and help toward existing customers that frequent this place but I choose to draw the line at blanket ads, simple as.  It has nothing to do with immaturity as displayed by a few here it has to do with speaking out against mindless spamming.  He only has to reign it in to comply with the TOS but he seems to be enjoying playing an innocent victim and making a fight out of it so he can carry on in contravention of the plain terms as written.

If I'd have been rude to Obi that would have been against the TOS also and there would have been plenty here that would have liked to lay that card on me had it been the case and I've have been out on my butt already.

It's also against the TOS to have dual login's another thing that Obi is claiming to have also although to be fair that just might be to make out he has some mystery presence here that participates like a normal member rather than a straight out marketing guy.

You and a few others here besides are elevating this thing into a personal issue bud, not me.  Check yourself.
2012/07/12 21:32:58
Jonbouy
Beagle


IK Obi


vintagevibe


cclarry



ViintageVibe

Did IK get banned?  Or what??  

He got dissed.

It was made very obvious that I wasn't welcome. So my superiors and I talked and decided to withdraw from these forums. I'm still lurking though because I still like the conversation here. Especially in the songs and  coffee house sections I have been frequenting since before starting at IK under different username. 


I think you based that assumption on a very small select group of individuals who do not speak for the entire body of members here.


Well I reckon Reece baby you've been known to be a stickler for that ol' TOS and the plain terms therein your good self too...so who is this small select group of individuals here and are you now speaking for the entire body of members when you say this?

I'm just wondering who the heck else here has to consult with supervisors as to whether it is the 'correct' thing to do or do most of us frequent this place because we are users of qualified products.

Maybe you're saying I should be excluded from that entire body of membership because I don't like the idea of a company paid rep coming here and blanket advertising and make it known?

Actually what are you saying here?
2012/07/12 23:10:24
Rbh
I don't see much of a difference between someone touting a product and someone touting a product who works for the company who's product they're touting. I'm not even sure if " touting " isn't one of words that belongs in someone else s native language and I as an American have pilfered it's use with no regard to it's origins....and then there's that word " pilfered ".....same goes.
2012/07/12 23:55:33
Jonbouy
Rbh


I don't see much of a difference between someone touting a product and someone touting a product who works for the company who's product they're touting. I'm not even sure if " touting " isn't one of words that belongs in someone else s native language and I as an American have pilfered it's use with no regard to it's origins....and then there's that word " pilfered ".....same goes.


Frankly I'm far less bothered by it than it would seem to many.  But when someone feels the need to keep dragging it up and playing victim when I've not even mentioned the whole sorry affair for weeks now I'm just going to defend myself against the personal attacks.

I'd suggest Obi just goes about his business rather than playing to the divide to provoke a reaction in his favour.  I've said all I'm ever going to say on the spamming issue but if people wanna keep having a pop then I shall defend myself everytime.

If he really wants to move on he will do just that rather than keep trying to negotiate territory. You'll note that I'm crediting him with some intelligence here because if he doesn't realise that himself then I'm giving him far too much credit.  There are as many against his stance as there are for, most quite rightly don't give a hoot.  Just like anybody 'touting' nikes or iApp media converters if it looks like spam it will be reported as such whoever the poster that's what the abuse button is for.

It's all very simple really, I'm not out to get anyone.  But I see employees of other company's taking part here not abuse the hosts terms and I've seen plenty of users get shot down for advertising a little bit of personal kit and it does irk me to see IK having such a flagrant disregard for fair play. The difference between an enthusiastic recommendation of a fellow member and a one-sided marketing spiel from a company should be obvious to anyone.

Especially when it's likely those in defence of their stance are IK converts that don't want to hear any noise associated with someone they've done business with.

I'd much rather Obi apologised for the whole sorry disturbance caused on both sides of the fence toned it down a bit and just got on with it, but he doesn't seem to be that kind of guy.  Like I said I HAD finished with it weeks ago, and if y'all excuse me I've spent too much time inadvertently raising IK's profile myself now already and I ain't even getting paid.


2012/07/13 00:12:27
Kreative
Stay tuned for the next episode of ... Obi wars ... in a forum galaxy far far away ... . Now that I've gotten my daily dose of the soaps, I'll go to CNN and see what's cookin' in that cauldron.
2012/07/14 14:11:29
IK Obi
Thanks again for the support guys. At the very least I don't lie about who I work for and come to plug the same products like a 3rd party. I still enjoy the conversation here and the people on these boards. That is the reason these forums are some of the best online for audio production and recording! :D
2012/07/14 14:44:59
cclarry
IK Obi


Thanks again for the support guys. At the very least I don't lie about who I work for and come to plug the same products like a 3rd party. I still enjoy the conversation here and the people on these boards. That is the reason these forums are some of the best online for audio production and recording! :D

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