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2012/07/08 12:10:50
yorolpal
Alright, so I, a fairly capable guitarist, succumbed to (as Bit would say) my severe GAS disorder due to a dramatic discounted price and purchased NIs Scarbee Funk Guitarist.  Which, if you listen to and are swayed by the various demos and tutorials is actually very interesting and, for me at least, potentially useful.  Anywhoo...turns out that even though this is a 7gig plus library NI wants it to be "download only".  OK.  I've downloaded bigger (albiet in smaller chunks) from other vendors.  But after over 24 hours of frustration and heartache I see I've finally been hipped to NIs little practical joke division.  They don't actually expect anyone to actually be able to download the whole thing at all.  Their shrewd marketing plan is to quite literally stress their customers out as much as possible and take them to the very brink of completion and then, like Lucy pulling the football away from Charlie Brown's oncoming kick, destroy your world at the last second and add a "Neener neener boo boo!!!" for good measure.  Now some of you might say, my dear Doghouse, you know you must use a download manager with resume capabilities when trying these large downloads.  To which I reply...NATCH!  And my "Freedownload Manager" tried valiantly to hang on even when the bitstream slowed to zero as it did so very often (Tho I'll admit I did get a kick out of the remaining time readout as it would occasionally show things like 900 hours or so).  But in the end (or ends I should say as I tried several times) it would get thrown off and show me the little red square indicating the NIs own servers cannot be "resumed".  Those crazy cusses.  I let it run all night last night and when I awoke it was like xmas morning as I scrambled from bed to see what Santa (NI) had brought me.  And there to my amazement was a zip file saying it was the full 7.45 gigs big.  Oh Joy!  Good things come to those who wait!!  Only....NOT....Freedownload Manager said that actually only 67% had downloaded and then had terminated.  I tried installing anyway.  Ha Ha.  Freedownload Manager was right.  Sigh. 
 
I left a similar missive at NI's support page.  I'm very familiar with the time frames I dealing with there.  Masochist that I am, I'll probably try again tonite.  I'm such a sucker.  And I love a good joke as much as the next dimbulb.
 
 
2012/07/08 12:16:00
pdlstl
Although I can't help on the D/L thingie, I do love your writing style. BTW, I just endured a similar experience with the vintage Organs.
2012/07/08 13:27:33
bapu
Sorry to say myolpal but I've never had that happen with NI downloads.

Mebee it's cuz I live in a MAJOR METROPOLITAN AREA where there USA servers are most likely located.


However, after buying Komplete 8 Ultimate on a USB drive, methinks I may never download from NI again ('cept maybe that big 'ol pianeer thang when I gots the dosh).


2012/07/08 14:11:52
yorolpal
It's possible it's my connection but everything else I've downloaded (even big stuff) has come through fine.  I'll do some checking but geeze louise...7gigs?
2012/07/08 14:22:32
keith
Interestingly... I had a FXpansion download totally crap out on me a few days ago, and I was using FDM at the time. A couple of files came through ok, with barely acceptable bandwidth, but I did have the total failure (after 96% of 3.5GB downloaded) and a massive number of low-bandwidth attempts because the server wouldn't allow FDM to create new sections (and no, I did not accept "37 hours @ 100KB/sec" or some such nonsense, so killed those failed attempts early on). Switched over to using DownThemAll via Firefox on both Mac and PC and things seemed much more stable and consistent... bandwidth from overseas wasn't stellar, but I was able to get in the 500KB/sec range per file...

Maybe FDM itself has issues and/or certain ISPs are putting up roadblocks? Not sure... Just think it's interesting that you also had a totally failed download with FDM... which, obviously, is not supposed to happen at all, because the servers supposedly support "range requests", which is how those managers divvy up the downloads... An unrecoverable failed FDM download would appear to be catastrophic, in relative terms...  
2012/07/08 14:30:14
keith
Actually, I just thought of why a download may or may not be resumable after failure... if the file exists temporarily, per download request, then subsequent attempts to download will fail... Needs to be a better way than that. Still, some of these companies need to step it up with the bandwidth and stability.
2012/07/08 17:31:55
yorolpal
Well, after several more aborted attempts with FDM I've downloaded FastGet and am trying it as we speak.  So far it's kicking FDM in the nether regions.  I'll keep ya posted.
2012/07/08 17:52:24
gustabo
That's why I like rar files that have recovery records embedded in them.

A download may appear to be fine but one bad sector can really screw up your download!
2012/07/08 18:09:10
cecelius2
yorolpal

Well, after several more aborted attempts with FDM I've downloaded FastGet and am trying it as we speak.  So far it's kicking FDM in the nether regions.  I'll keep ya posted.

Sorry to hear about your troubles.  I dread big downloads.  So when i read your thread, I said I have to get this FastGet as an alternate.  Alas, I could not find FastGet; I found Flash Get.  Can you post a link to this particular download manager?
2012/07/08 18:12:24
yorolpal
Sorry...I meant FlashGet.  I'd edit my above post but my dang iPad won't let me.
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