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2013/03/28 08:11:39
Karyn
Mike, I had to look up rolling shutter.  No,  it's a pure strobe effect.
2013/03/28 08:15:59
The Maillard Reaction
Hi Karyn,
 Thanks for thinking about it and replying.

 best regards,
mike
2013/03/28 08:19:47
Karyn
You're most welcome Mike.

I'll submit my invoice via TheBouy Ltd. as usual.
2013/03/29 23:34:02
bapu
Nope McQ, that's not what I'm up to.
2013/03/29 23:38:11
craigb
bapu


Nope sharke, that's not what I'm up to.


Sharke?
2013/03/29 23:43:17
bapu
craigb


bapu


Nope sharke, that's not what I'm up to.


Sharke?

DOH!!!!


As you can see, I'm a bit rusty at this postin' thang.
2013/03/30 08:19:06
The Maillard Reaction


ouch!




Where did the love go?
2013/03/30 09:00:35
soens
Karyn


You're watching video shot on a video camera (whether a "propper" camera or cell phone camera) running at 24 fps.   The hose is being shaken by the speaker at 24Hz...

It's the old "wheels on the cart turning backwards" when viewed on film effect.



Looks pretty.
 
I've heard this theory on TV before. It's called the "reverse rotation effect". Wheels, propellers, helecopter blades, etc. have it.
The theory is I don't believe it.  
Why? I see this in real life with the naked eye. But then, I see a lot of things others don't...  
It is not a matter of "frameeffect" but of illumination or how light reflects off of an object in motion. 
What you see is the real thing. No hoax. No gimmics.
 
Never mind! I was thinking of something else entirely closely related.
2013/03/30 09:11:35
The Maillard Reaction


With respect,

I agree with Karyn. What wasn't mentioned, but is easy to infer, is that the digital video was shot at 24fps progressive scan.

The question I had was whether the camera used a rolling shutter or a "global shutter".

The shallow depth of field suggests that the camera has a large image sensor so it's either a DSLR or one of the nice new large format video cameras. 

The examples shown are

24hz synced to the frame rate.
23hz creates the forward movement effect
25hz creates the reverse effect

The issue about the shutter technology would concern some nuance of how the sync effect appears but the general premise that there is a sync point and a less than, and greater than frame rate that creates the effect, the premise that Karyn put forth, is a correct explanation.


best regards,
mike
2013/03/30 09:15:38
soens
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