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2014/10/19 21:12:00
johnnyV

SSD Drive Questions

 EDIT: See post 20 and 21 for important info for all Samsung EVO 840 owners Bus fix required. 
 
 
 
 
I rebuilding my DAW and I have already bought the MOBO, Processor and RAM. 
 
I was going to labotimize my 2007 Silverstone case and put the parts in there. 
I was going to do this because I thought I had a week downtime. Now I have a client booked for Wednesday so will hold off. Then I was thinking for the money why not order a new Case and Power supply. Then I like to use a fresh hard drive and was going to order another $56 1 TB 7200 HD.
But maybe I should finally get into the what everyone else here seems to have and that's a SSD drive. 
 
So I've picked a case and Power supply no problem but  looking at SSD drves I need some help. I see they are each different and the prices go from $130 to $ 200 for a 240 GB drive. 
 
So what is the difference in the 2 models posted above? Is there a speed / access difference? As this will be my C drive and my working Audio / Project drive * I am willing to pay for better performance. But just paying $90 more thinking it's "got to be better" would be dumb on my behalf. Thanks for any input. 
 
* I keep working projects on C drive, They are backed up in at least 3 more dive locations and when finished they are removed from C. My total Calkwalk Project folder with 3 albums going is only 34 Gigs. Down the road I guess I would add a second SSD for DATA. 
 
 YI MOBO is a 
 
http://www.ncix.com/detail/gigabyte-z97x-soc-atx-lga1150-z97-da-96893-1382.htm
 
 

 
 
 
 
2014/10/20 01:12:13
melmyers
A year-and-a-half ago, my computer expert suggested I go with a Crucial SSD, saying that he and his customers had good experiences with the brand. (He was not selling SSD's, so he had no vested interest.) I took his advice, ordered a Crucial 512 GB unit (from a seller on eBay), and it has worked perfectly. 
2014/10/20 02:35:09
lawajava
I would suggest just looking up SSD on Amazon. The prices and units you have links to above seemed overpriced for the value.

That said, SSDs are the way to go. You'll be glad you get an SSD.
2014/10/20 10:35:53
bitflipper
You might also want to look at PCIe SSDs, which achieve even faster performance (3x faster) by bypassing the SATA interface. You'll pay twice as much for them, though. 
 
It'll be a while before any SSD finds its way into my DAW. Not until they're under a hundred bucks for a terabyte, which will definitely happen eventually. Until then, my conventional drives are fast enough for even large projects, and as long as they can keep up the only real benefit of an SSD would be faster load times. I doubt that loading a sample library in 2 seconds is going to boost my creativity.
 
 
2014/10/20 10:50:19
MondoArt
I'm using the ADATA SX900, exactly the one you posted, for over a year now.
 
What bitfillper said is right, it doesn't make much of a difference for actually working, but how fast Windows starts up and programs start is a lot faster.  I keep all samples (i.e. Komplete 8) on my 3TB drive, along with documents and project files.  The SSD is used only for Windows and programs.
 
I haven't any issue with the ADATA.  Can't speak for the others, but at the time, the ADATA seemed to me the best bang for the buck.
 
I'm running it on an ASUS P8Z68-M Pro board with Intel i5 processor.
2014/10/20 11:28:03
johnnyV
Thanks for the replies. Well a faster boot up and Software loads would be nice. Right now it's probably an entire minute or so which I spend turning other stuff on and looking for my guitar picks etc.. Sonar loads within 10 seconds, Wave lab about 20. So in 2 minutes I'm working. And that's my old computer. I'm expecting this new system to be a bit faster. 
 
I don't use sample libraries because I'm mostly audio. Drums are for the most part midi and I might add piano and organ. So what I'm after is more for the OS and software stability and bullet proof endurance.
I was under the impression that SSD drives should not fail in the way a standard HD will because there are no moving parts. Is this true? Who out there has the oldest SSD drive? 
 
I think I'll order this one recommended by a tech friend of mine. What my question was is there anything "better" with certain specs? Seems there is not at this point other then the read write spec which seems about the same at this price point. 
 
http://www.ncix.com/detail/samsung-840-evo-series-mz-7te120bw-55-87760-1246.htm
 
Hey Lawajava , thanks for the price tip, But NCIX will price match on check out. Plus for me it's a Canadian supplier and no shipping hassles. Plus they are solid on returns. Been buying from them for 15 years. 
2014/10/20 11:40:05
hockeyjx
Crucial M500s are solid from my experience. I've bought about 50 in the last year, and haven't one problem from a customer. I'd stick with that or Intel ...as I've heard nothing good personally about Adata (again, only what I have heard).
 
Those PCIe drives are for the rich and famous! This: http://www.amazon.com/Intel-P3600-800Gb-Height-Single/dp/B00L0LFKQW/ref=sr_1_8?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1413819313&sr=1-8&keywords=ssd+hard+drive Costs a few hundred more than my machine did! 
2014/10/21 00:49:41
ronald.57
Recently I bought a PNY 120GB SSD for € 60,= (which is $70,=). I installed Sonar X1, X2 and X3 producer completely, plus full versions of Guitar Rig 4 and 5, Addictive Drums 1 and 2, Melodyne editor, + some more small add ons.
Alltogether, including windows 8.1.1 pro, it takes about 75 GB of space, so there is more then 40GB disk space available. At this moment I keep all my projects on an external SATA drive.
 
Windows starts real fast (10 secs, including Smart Eset virus protection), X3 starts (including scanning of VST's) in 10-15 secs, which is much faster then it used to take. So I'm quite happy with this small investment.   
2014/10/21 05:28:02
johnkeel
Working for a laptop brand for years i can give you some input on this.
EVERY brand we sold, NONE ever compared to the low RMA of the SAMSUNG SSDs, its crazy actually, we sell millions of those in last 4 years, only got like 2 to 3 RMAS. It's just stupid and insane, nothing else can compare, we tried intel, ocz, toshiba, plextor, crucial, corsair, kingston, and usually it only takes a week or two to notice the difference in reliability.
My advice is Samsung 840 Pro or the new 850 PRO, but i cant vouch with real RMA data on the last one, but according to Samsung they are even more reliable... even the warranty is longer.
2014/10/21 06:07:32
jeffb63
I've got a Samsung 840 Evo as the system drive in my studio DAW and an 840 Evo as the system drive in my stage laptop with an 840 Pro as the sample storage drive in the laptop.
 
All nice and speedy and noproblems so far.
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