Richard Ashcroft, A Song For The Lovers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5A78xUY7u6I

I always liked this song, and I guess to me it sounds great, but that's because I really like the tune. 

But as for the mix, well to my ears it sounds very crowded, muddy at times, and often hard to pick out the individual parts, even on a good set of cans. That said, I still really enjoy it.  I guess what I was wondering is, if this were posted in the songs forum, would the general consensus be that there was too much going on and that frequencies were clashing and that maybe it would be better to tone the arrangement down a bit? 

Or do they get away with it on the basis that it's a "wall of sound" style arrangement in which it doesn't really matter if individual parts get lost in the mix? 

I know - it's all down to taste and if I enjoy it, I enjoy it. The song certainly has enough acclaim. But I'm just interested to know how audio production junkies such as ourselves perceive such a mix. 

You could test your theory out put it in the songs forum. See what they say

It's a circle jerk forum anyway. ;)

LOTS OF GOOD INFO IN THE SONGS FORUM.

Never a big fan of Ashcroft or The Verve, but that song always sounded good on the radio.

batsbrew


LOTS OF GOOD INFO IN THE SONGS FORUM.

Always thought the songs forum was for, you know, songs you'd made yourself 

jamesg1213


Never a big fan of Ashcroft or The Verve, but that song always sounded good on the radio.

This was what I was wondering, is a song like this mixed to sound good on the radio, but not an audiophile system. I used to know a guy who worked in an audiophile store in the North East of England, and he told me that he'd sometimes get young guys coming in who wanted to splurge their tax refund on a decent setup, and they'd bring an album by Oasis or Blur in as a tester. He told me that they'd always go away disappointed that their favorite jangly Britpop music, which sounds great on the radio and on small bedroom systems,  sounded like crap on high end speakers. 

Dingleberry


You could test your theory out put it in the songs forum. See what they say

It's a circle jerk forum anyway. ;)

You are always welcome to join the circle of jerks the membership list is always open as there is not one.


Like the Bat says useful information to be found in many places around these forums.


Look forward to hearing your contribution soon Dingleberry, I would have called you by name but you are another one who hides behind internet anonymity.

Welp...I just listened to it on my iPad lying in my lap partially masking the speaker.  A good mix would still sound ok under those conditions and a great mix would still translate and sound...well...great.

This didn't.  At all.

Liked the feel and the song tho.

Lol 
How'd I  know Simone (that was supposed to say someone damn spell correction. Seems fitting though) would get offended.  Hello there's a winky 


"Hides behind anonymity ". Lol!  So say the wookie







Who cares anyway?

Dingleberry


Lol 
How'd I  know Simone (that was supposed to say someone damn spell correction. Seems fitting though) would get offended.  Hello there's a winky 


"Hides behind anonymity ". Lol!  So say the Wookiee  







Who cares anyway?

Not offended just offering you the opportunity to show us your burgeoning talent.

As to hiding behind internet anonymity go check my Profile and you will find out what my given name is unlike yourself.

As to my internet name I got given the nickname Wookiee when Star Wars first hit the big screen it kind stuck most people that know me call me Wookiee.


As to who cares, shame a few more do not care.