Rain

SteveStrummerUK


Very sad news indeed.

I saw Maiden in 1980 when Clive Burr and Paul Di'Anno were drummer and vocalist.

I'm probably biased for that reason, but I still think that was their best line-up.

I wish I'd have seen that.


I started listening to Maiden around the time Piece of Mind came out I think. Number of the Beast was my introduction to them and it holds a very, very special place for me. 

Back then, for kids our age (12 or 13), a few years were an eternity, and as such, the previous incarnations of Maiden were something totally retro, and to our young ears, not quite heavy enough. So I've always assumed I was more of a Dickinson-era fan.


But if I take a few minutes to think about it, man, Killers probably is my favorite Iron Maiden album. I dug Piece of Mind, Powerslave and the others, but Killers would have to be on top of my list. 

That being said, I'd hate to have to chose only one of them.

 
Rain (Kris?), you'll probably remember the acronym NWOBHM (New Wave Of British Heavy Metal) - a title given to resurgence of that genre around '79 - '80 by Sounds magazine journalist Geoff Barton (who went on to become the founding editor of Kerrang!! magazine).
 
There were a number of newish bands over here that everybody was talking about at the time, groups like Iron Maiden (and their now legendary Soundhouse Tapes), Def Leppard (although the 'purists' already realised Joe Elliott's mob had 'sold out' and merely jumped on the bandwagon and were really after fame and fortune in the States with their more commercial polished sound), Saxon, Tygers Of Pan Tang, Samson (lead singer one 'Bruce Bruce' Dickinson), Diamond Head and (IMHO, the criminally under-rated) Praying Mantis were at the forefront.
 
And the movement also certainly did no harm to the careers of more established British metal acts like Judas Priest and Motörhead.
 
As to the Maiden back catalogue, I love Killers too, the production was just so much better than their (rather 'thin' sounding) eponymous debut. But for me, that first album will always be my favourite. As is the case with many first albums, the songs on it are usually the best of the band's set list, as opposed to songs they've had to deliberately sit down and write for subsequent releases. And having been lucky enough to see them before the release of Iron Maiden, I remember well the anticipation of the upcoming LP release - LOL when I got it I played it solidly for about a week after!
 
Great memories, that's why it's always such a shame when somebody like Clive Burr, who helped create those memories, leaves us.
 
 
Linear Phase, you are right, Priest are currently in the studio working on a new release. They're also putting out a live DVD/Blu-Ray from their recent Epitaph world tour. When I saw them in 2011 at their 'home-town' gig at Wolverhampton (with the excellent Queensryche), it wasn't long after Richie Faulkner had replaced KK in the line-up. I was a little apprehensive at first - I mean those were some big boots to fill - but the guy is probably a better technical player than KK so he played all his predecessor's parts quite 'authentically', although in parts where he was allowed to let rip, he really impressed.
 
It will be fascinating to see what direction his input to the song-writing takes the band in. My susp icions are they might become a little 'heavier', although the solos might well have a more melodic feel. I don't think the effect will be as drastic as when Rob Halford left the band though - when Glenn and KK were the sole writers, the music (on Jugulator and Demolition) was far too one-dimensional.
 
I'm really looking forward to hearing what they come up with.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

 56 seems way too young to die. It seems the older I get the younger people seem to die.

SteveStrummerUK

Rain

SteveStrummerUK


Very sad news indeed.

I saw Maiden in 1980 when Clive Burr and Paul Di'Anno were drummer and vocalist.

I'm probably biased for that reason, but I still think that was their best line-up.

I wish I'd have seen that.


I started listening to Maiden around the time Piece of Mind came out I think. Number of the Beast was my introduction to them and it holds a very, very special place for me. 

Back then, for kids our age (12 or 13), a few years were an eternity, and as such, the previous incarnations of Maiden were something totally retro, and to our young ears, not quite heavy enough. So I've always assumed I was more of a Dickinson-era fan.


But if I take a few minutes to think about it, man, Killers probably is my favorite Iron Maiden album. I dug Piece of Mind, Powerslave and the others, but Killers would have to be on top of my list. 

That being said, I'd hate to have to chose only one of them.

 
Rain (Kris?), you'll probably remember the acronym NWOBHM (New Wave Of British Heavy Metal) - a title given to resurgence of that genre around '79 - '80 by Sounds magazine journalist Geoff Barton (who went on to become the founding editor of Kerrang!! magazine).
 
There were a number of newish bands over here that everybody was talking about at the time, groups like Iron Maiden (and their now legendary Soundhouse Tapes), Def Leppard (although the 'purists' already realised Joe Elliott's mob had 'sold out' and merely jumped on the bandwagon and were really after fame and fortune in the States with their more commercial polished sound), Saxon, Tygers Of Pan Tang, Samson (lead singer one 'Bruce Bruce' Dickinson), Diamond Head and (IMHO, the criminally under-rated) Praying Mantis were at the forefront.
 
And the movement also certainly did no harm to the careers of more established British metal acts like Judas Priest and Motörhead.
 
As to the Maiden back catalogue, I love Killers too, the production was just so much better than their (rather 'thin' sounding) eponymous debut. But for me, that first album will always be my favourite. As is the case with many first albums, the songs on it are usually the best of the band's set list, as opposed to songs they've had to deliberately sit down and write for subsequent releases. And having been lucky enough to see them before the release of Iron Maiden, I remember well the anticipation of the upcoming LP release - LOL when I got it I played it solidly for about a week after!
 
Great memories, that's why it's always such a shame when somebody like Clive Burr, who helped create those memories, leaves us.
  
 

Reminds me of the look on her face the first time I told my wife that Def Leppard was considered heavy metal back then - she's a bit younger than I am and she really thought I was pulling her leg w/ that one.


Samson, I haven't heard in years - we had what was (IIRC) a LP that consisted of songs from 2 albums w/ Dickinson, called Head Tactics. The music market obviously wasn't as global as it is today. 


Many of my records I had to order by mail, from a store in Montreal , who had one page in a paper once a month, listing imports and new arrival. That was what we could choose from.


No wonder we regarded music w/ respect, it was so hard to get.

Very sad indeed. Clive is in my top 3 of favorite drummers. He was way more creative than Nicko, IMO. He also had amazing stamina- the single-stroke roll he plays on the hihat during the second bass break in "Innocent Exile" is sick! Another example is the second half of "Children of the Damned".
He also came up with some classic intros. "...Beast" alone has "The Prisoner","Gangland", and "Run to the Hills"....
When comparing Clive to Nicko, I've always said Clive had thunder an Nicko had lightening.

RIP

There seems to be an abnormal amount of "music legends" passing...

Very sad indeed...

SteveStrummerUK


There were a number of newish bands over here that everybody was talking about at the time, groups like Iron Maiden (and their now legendary Soundhouse Tapes), Def Leppard (although the 'purists' already realised Joe Elliott's mob had 'sold out' and merely jumped on the bandwagon and were really after fame and fortune in the States with their more commercial polished sound), Saxon, Tygers Of Pan Tang, Samson (lead singer one 'Bruce Bruce' Dickinson), Diamond Head and (IMHO, the criminally under-rated) Praying Mantis were at the forefront. 
 
  
 

Since you're mentioning all of those Steve...  What's your take on Venom, Grim Reaper or Paul Di'Anno?

Starise


 56 seems way too young to die. It seems the older I get the younger people seem to die.

Darn straight this....way too young. And I'm only 58....

craigb

SteveStrummerUK


There were a number of newish bands over here that everybody was talking about at the time, groups like Iron Maiden (and their now legendary Soundhouse Tapes), Def Leppard (although the 'purists' already realised Joe Elliott's mob had 'sold out' and merely jumped on the bandwagon and were really after fame and fortune in the States with their more commercial polished sound), Saxon, Tygers Of Pan Tang, Samson (lead singer one 'Bruce Bruce' Dickinson), Diamond Head and (IMHO, the criminally under-rated) Praying Mantis were at the forefront. 
 
  
 

Since you're mentioning all of those Steve...  What's your take on Venom, Grim Reaper or Paul Di'Anno?

 
Craig, to be honest, I haven't listened to much of their stuff - aside from Di'Anno when he was with Maiden.
 
Mark (mgh) is the man who really knows his stuff on this era.