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2012/05/28 00:07:01
Kreative
keith


Kreative... you'd be suprised... even The Pros, using The Pro String Libraries often layer and substitute and swap for a variety of reasons. This library doesn't do well in the legato or slides dept., that library doesn't do well in the forte ****cato dept, etc. etc... So I would temper your enthusiasm when thinking "minor league" vs. "big league".... ;^) 

Yeah, you're one of many that swear by blending string libraries, and I do see your point on the strengths and weaknesses of these various samples. I'm kind of looking to do some pop/rock strings, too, and possibly some epic pieces as I build towards that possibility. I have been trying blending and will do whatever might be needed to achieve more realism and depth. Nevertheless, I must say that some libraries have an out of the box sound that stands out against the comparison of others.


Greg has an interesting article on his Orange Tree blog: http://www.orangetreesamples.com/blog/2011/02/the-uncanny-valley/#more-193 


"The general trend for contemporary sample libraries is to keep adding more velocity layers, more round-robin alternating samples, and more articulations accessible by keyswitches. While this formula for expansion results in larger, more extensive libraries, it is still an extension of traditional sampling, maintaining many of the same foundational limitations which prevent sample libraries from crossing the “uncanny valley”. Essentially, it’s what keeps the libraries from overcoming what defines whether something sounds real or sampled: context."
2012/05/28 11:10:52
keith
gregjazz


Is there a wrench icon to edit the instruments, or is it a gear, meaning that the library's locked? I've been playing the library in demo mode, and it sounds really great. Can't wait to incorporate it in some songs now. :)

The Double Gear of Death... :( ... will be loading K2 on this machine to see if it's locked all the way back to the source... perhaps it's just a "NI doesn't want you to use K4 to edit a patch saved in K2" thing... here's hoping...
 
Otherwise I might send DD an email asking pretty please with a cherry on top to provide NKIs that at least provide user customization via standard NKI edits... I mean, the underlying content is protected, and I can see wnating to protect scripts, but script protection can be done separately (via password), right?
 
We'll see...
2012/05/28 13:48:23
gregjazz
Well, Dan Dean just sent me a new serial key, so the library works fine now! I wasn't expecting a response so soon, considering it's a holiday weekend, so that was a nice surprised. As for the locked patches, unfortunately there's not much that can be done. Unlocking the patches would require Native Instruments to re-encode the library--they lock the patches by standard practice unless you explicitly ask them to keep them unlocked (but still encrypted of course). A bit of a pity, since the patches could be edited to include release samples (taken from the ends of the samples, which have natural release sounds), etc.
2012/05/28 14:48:53
keith
gregjazz


Well, Dan Dean just sent me a new serial key, so the library works fine now! I wasn't expecting a response so soon, considering it's a holiday weekend, so that was a nice surprised. As for the locked patches, unfortunately there's not much that can be done. Unlocking the patches would require Native Instruments to re-encode the library--they lock the patches by standard practice unless you explicitly ask them to keep them unlocked (but still encrypted of course). A bit of a pity, since the patches could be edited to include release samples (taken from the ends of the samples, which have natural release sounds), etc.

I see… so Dan himself couldn't even create a new NKI and somehow point them at the existing NKX or whatever they're called, right? Too bad… I wonder what the actual relationship is between the NKI and the NKX… like are the NKI encrypted and only decrypted in conjunction witht he corresponding NKX? Must be something complicated like that.


Anyway...  nice to get the serial resolved so quickly though. 
2012/05/28 19:59:28
gregjazz
Yeah exactly--the NKI is encoded as well in order to work with the Kontakt Player, and to connect with the NKX.
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