Good day all...
 
OK...I'll try to be clear as I can and not leave out any pertinent info.
 
For ease of scolling/selecting patches I created an SGX Nitro .ins file to work within X2.
I imported the JV1010 as my template and renamed all patches and all (4) banks to the SGX Nitro guitar preamp names/patches which also has (4) banks.
Bank A - 115 presets (116-128 I renamed as 'user')
Bank B - 115 presets (116-128 I renamed as 'user')
Bank C - 115 presets (116-128 I renamed as 'user')
Bank D - 71 presets (116-128 I renamed as 'user')
 
When I'm in X2 with BANK A selected I can scroll patches fine.
But, when I change to any other 'bank' the SGX Nitro LCD defaults to patch 129 rather than going to patch 1 of the newly selected SGX 'bank'?
I even tried to learn something about anything I may have done wrong here:
http://home.roadrunner.com/~jgglatt/tutr/bank.htm
 
Understanding the whole midi implementation process has always been a annoyance for my neurons.
Apparently, it's beyond my lack of intellect and I've tried everything I can think of with no success.
 
Thanks to all in advance for any help....
 
 
 
 

perhaps the Nitro needs an MBS/LSB bank command first to change Bank presets as you read.
Do you have the midi implementation chart for your SGX? lets take a look at it.
 
I downloaded the manual and I dont see any bank change commands, I see remapping utilities, and I see the foor controller changing programs, so unless you contact texh support and request the info, if its available, youre stuck with the front panel or remapping.

musicman100


perhaps the Nitro needs an MBS/LSB bank command first to change Bank presets as you read.
Do you have the midi implementation chart for your SGX? lets take a look at it.

As requested above would be helpful as not all midi devices use the same bank switching method.

you might be able to perform a bank change as detailed on page 5 of the manual and either attempt to monitor the midi data wuth the midi data monitor function or try to capture the midi data from the mid out jack to a PC equiped with midi ox or a sequencer that captures sys ex.

Hey musicman100....

This link is a page from Glenn Thomas's home page who also wrote a patch editor for the SGX many years ago.
It's the owner's manual for the SGX.
http://www.glennthomas.net/art/resources/sgxnitro.pdf
 
His homepage is here should anyone else be interested:
http://www.glennthomas.net/art/

I think page 57-59 are the pages you refer to.
I'm totally clueless after reading it more than once.

You're a good man for chiming in on this PMO I've been dealing with.

Thank you...and Wookie too.
 
EDIT: regarding Page 5 - even if I set up BANK B in X2 and change the bank on the Nitro to that same BANK as soon as I start to scroll in X2 it automatically goes to patch 129 on the Nitro instead of patch 1 on the selected BANK B, C or D.
 

musicman100


perhaps the Nitro needs an MBS/LSB bank command first to change Bank presets as you read. 

BTW - That should read MSB/LSB (not MBS), which stands for Most Significant Byte / Least Significant Byte. 

craigb

musicman100


perhaps the Nitro needs an MBS/LSB bank command first to change Bank presets as you read. 

BTW - That should read MSB/LSB (not MBS), which stands for Most Significant Byte / Least Significant Byte. 

thank ewe Craig, im bass akwards, i knew what you meant

"ewe Craig, im bass akwards, i knew what you meant"

Ha...and you're still parsecs ahead of me in grasping these ominous midi implementation concepts.
 
Thanks all....
It just occured to me that I can send via email the .ins file if someone actually wanted to check it out.
Don't know if that's helpful or not and acknowledge that would beyond the call of midi help duty. :)
 
 

Quazelar


Hey musicman100....

This link is a page from Glenn Thomas's home page who also wrote a patch editor for the SGX many years ago.
It's the owner's manual for the SGX.
http://www.glennthomas.net/art/resources/sgxnitro.pdf
 
His homepage is here should anyone else be interested:
http://www.glennthomas.net/art/

I think page 57-59 are the pages you refer to.
I'm totally clueless after reading it more than once.

You're a good man for chiming in on this PMO I've been dealing with.

Thank you...and Wookie too.
 
EDIT: regarding Page 5 - even if I set up BANK B in X2 and change the bank on the Nitro to that same BANK as soon as I start to scroll in X2 it automatically goes to patch 129 on the Nitro instead of patch 1 on the selected BANK B, C or D.
 

SGX Nitro guitar preamp

 
 
 
That interesting because  midi specs are program changes for 128 patches (0-127 with 0 being 1 or 0, confused?)
 
so something behind the scenes is going on.
 
That link you provided is the one I looked at, not a lot of information there,, try contacting ART tech support and see if your unit supports bank change and what messages if it does.
 

musicman100...

I noticed that also.
When I imported the JV1010 it notes patches 1-128 in the 'Patch Names for Banks' in the 'Define Instuments and Names' category.

1) Proteus FX module, also having 4 banks, has "* = General MIDI" under that same category and the Proteus works fine.
2) Roland MBD-1 has 2 banks and is also "* = General MIDI" and works fine.
3) Roland MVS-1 has 2 banks and states "1-128" and works fine.

It has occured to me with the help here that maybe I need to choose a template that uses "0-127" for it to work properly?
Any thoughts about that possiblity?
Would that still be problematic because a patch of 000 would acually be 001 on the SGX a would still not behave accurately?
Thank you....