I guess this is a rant because I'm not sure advice will help me, tho feel free to weigh in if you have some ideas.
 
I'm playing keyboards in our church band.  (this is not to be confused with playing piano - piano is a paid position, keyboard is volunteer and is usually just playing some strings or organ parts).
 
There are actually 2 of us who play keyboards.  the other guy is an older gentleman who only plays hymns.  I play on the contemporary stuff.  This makes for an odd arrangement because it means during any given Sunday, we might swap back and and forth on the keyboard 3 or 4 times since we play about 1/2 contemporary and 1/2 hymns, but in no particular order (well, there is a "theme" to the order, but it means we might have 1 cont, then 1 hymn, then 2 cont, then 1 hymn, then 1 cont then 2 hymns...).
 
The keyboard belongs to the church and that's what we play.  it's a Casio 88key weighted.  (personally I prefer to play synth keys for organ and strings, but this is what we have).  we have a monitor for all of the band and the monitor that was being used for the keyboard itself was only the built in speakers.
 
I couldn't hear the keyboard that way because the band monitor has the keys turned way down and those speakers on the casio are crap.
 
so I brought in my keyboard amp and plugged it in.  sweet!  now I can hear myself!
 
however, the other guy refuses to touch it, and also refuses to touch the volume on the keyboard itself.  so when he goes from playing strings (low output) to playing organ (high volume output), he gets blasted by the keyboard monitor and then proceeds to gripe about it.
 
so I end up having to change the keyboard amp settings after each time I play before he steps up to play a hymn.  personally I prefer to leave the keyboard amp volume alone during a set and adjust the volume on the keyboard itself if necessary (and the FOH is good with that - they can adjust me if necessary in the house).
 
but this is a little frustrating for me - not just the adjustment of the keyboard amp, but the whole situation.  going back and forth during a set has been more than a little frustrating, especially when the other guy complains about the extra equpiment, the volume, and he hasn't said anything yet, but I suspect he doesn't like his patch settings changed either (I really have no choice in that sometimes).
 
so... like I said, it's really just a rant...I will probably talk to the leader about it soon and see if he has a better solution.  otherwise, I'm afraid the two of us will likely have "issues" soon.

Turn it off when you switch to him playing and then turn it on when you play.

Simples (since he refuses to touch it).

I suppose taking the old guy outside and adjusting his opinion in a dark alley (the UK approach) is probably not acceptable for church members...

In other words, I think you'll find it's easier to just change the volume each time than to change this guys opinion.

bapu


Turn it off when you switch to him playing and then turn it on when you play.

Simples (since he refuses to touch it).

that would be a good solution for that part, but the LINE OUT of the amp is connected to the snake for the FOH.  so if I turn off the amp, there would be no signal to the FOH.

craigb


I suppose taking the old guy outside and adjusting his opinion in a dark alley (the UK approach) is probably not acceptable for church members...

In other words, I think you'll find it's easier to just change the volume each time than to change this guys opinion.

I agree.  it's just frustrating to have to remember to change it after I play and before I play. 
 
yesterday I played on a song that was for a featured soloist and I played the intro and the outtro. I remembered to change the volume on the keyboard, but forgot that I had turned down the volume on the amp for Doug and so my intro was not as loud as it should have been (and the FOH missed it, too).

Beagle

bapu


Turn it off when you switch to him playing and then turn it on when you play.

Simples (since he refuses to touch it).

that would be a good solution for that part, but the LINE OUT of the amp is connected to the snake for the FOH.  so if I turn off the amp, there would be no signal to the FOH.

bapu

Beagle

bapu


Turn it off when you switch to him playing and then turn it on when you play.

Simples (since he refuses to touch it).

that would be a good solution for that part, but the LINE OUT of the amp is connected to the snake for the FOH.  so if I turn off the amp, there would be no signal to the FOH.

sigh.  yeah, I thought about that.  I hate those things because they split the volume load, but it might be necessary (I also thought about buying a small behringer mixer for this purpose also).

so when he goes from playing strings (low output) to playing organ (high volume output), he gets blasted by the keyboard monitor and then proceeds to gripe about it. 
 
 
How about Editing the patches he uses to balance the relative output of the offending patches. Do it with the volume
knob up on 11 so no matter if he cranked it up it would only play at the respective  patches volume.

Do you think hes savy enough to go in a re-edit the patches?

Edited for clarity of where I'm going with this ...

I'm playing keyboards in our church band ... There are actually 2 of us who play keyboards ... The keyboard belongs to the church ... we have a monitor for all of the band and the monitor that was being used for the keyboard itself was only the built in speakers ... I couldn't hear the keyboard that way because the band monitor has the keys turned way down and those speakers on the casio are crap ... EEEERRRR! Screeching halt here ----> I brought in my keyboard amp and plugged it in.

Dude. You didn't? OMG.

You already lost this one Beagle. You pretty much just bypassed everyone and royally pissed them off.

You're only option is to disconnect it, tell them you are sorry you brought it but you can't play anymore unless they turn up the monitor so you can hear yourself just like they do for everyone else, and let nature take it's course.

Or, switch the old farts heart pills with some Viagra and let nature take it's course that way.

musicman100


so when he goes from playing strings (low output) to playing organ (high volume output), he gets blasted by the keyboard monitor and then proceeds to gripe about it. 
 
 
How about Editing the patches he uses to balance the relative output of the offending patches. Do it with the volume
knob up on 11 so no matter if he cranked it up it would only play at the respective  patches volume.

Do you think hes savy enough to go in a re-edit the patches?

Ha!  no, I'm sure he's not. 
 
that's not a bad idea.  I'll have to look into that, thanks George!