2014/06/30 10:25:28
jeffb63
Rebuilt my DAW over the winter with an I7 4700K an ASUS Z87-K and 16GB Kingston HyperX Genesis.
 
Everything at stock settings.
It worked OK well the weather was cool but, on reflection, started getting flaky as the temperature rose.
 
I was concentrating more on my live work at the time so wasn't needing to use the studio and didn't get around to troubleshooting the problem.
 
I got into the studio last week wanting to do some stuff and the thing has become intolerable with random freezes, BSODs, shut downs etc etc!
 
So, not putting 2 and 2 together, I started troubleshooting. I ran memtest for several hours with no errors, updated all the drivers including the graphics, reverted to a disk image with minimal programs installed, all to no avail.
 
I finally got to cooling. I'm thinking it's only a stock cooler but I'm not overclocking or running heavy loads so it should be OK?
 
I purchased Aida64 Extreme on recommendation of a friend and started checking things out.
 
The CPU was idling at around 60-65 Celsius! At full load it was up to around 95-97 with spikes of 100!!
 
So I went out and got a Coolermaster TX3 Evo (wanted to stick with push pins to avoid removing the motherboard to fit a backplate).
 
On removing the stock cooler, which felt securely fixed, I was shocked to see that the pre applied thermal compound was only melted over about 50% of the copper disc on the heatsink with the stripes still untouched on the rest, revealing that it had not been in full contact with the cpu.
 
I've now installed the CM TX3 and it's idling at 28-32C and up to around 65-70 at full load.
 
Now I'm worried that I've fried my cpu?!
 
Been building my own PC systems for about 20 years now and never had this problem before!
2014/06/30 11:15:03
Mesh
 It shows how amazing (and scary) that a fairly simple process like applying thermal compound properly is soooo important. I was a bit worried as well when I built my rig last summer and installed my Noctua cooler......I even watched some videos just to make sure....LOL
 
Why did you use the stock cooler to begin with? (from everything I've read on the subject, the majority of builders always discourage using stock). Just curious....
2014/06/30 11:53:52
jeffb63
Mesh
 
Why did you use the stock cooler to begin with? (from everything I've read on the subject, the majority of builders always discourage using stock). Just curious....




Seemed a good idea at the time due to the case being a bit tight for space, and the fact that I don't tend to stress my system too much with only using small track counts with minimal plugins.
 
The thing is with the stock cooler, the thermal paste is ready applied to the heatsink.
Didn't think that Intel could get something like that so wrong!
 
The older I get the more I learn!
2014/06/30 12:11:41
SvenArne
Stock cooler = heave it away with great force! Noisy and poor performance. I wonder why they keep including it if any self-respecting rig builder will throw it in the trash anyway?
 
2014/06/30 12:43:43
jeffb63
SvenArne
Stock cooler = heave it away with great force! 

Normally do! Lesson learnt.
 
While I've got it apart I've decided to swap out the 3 old HDDs I carried over from my old system with a Samsung 840 Evo system drive and a new Seagate 1tb sample storage HDD to go alongside the existing 750gb Seagate for recording.
 
While I'm at it I may even have a go at a modest overclock!
2014/06/30 13:13:05
Mesh
jeffb63
SvenArne
Stock cooler = heave it away with great force! 

Normally do! Lesson learnt.
 
While I've got it apart I've decided to swap out the 3 old HDDs I carried over from my old system with a Samsung 840 Evo system drive and a new Seagate 1tb sample storage HDD to go alongside the existing 750gb Seagate for recording.
 
While I'm at it I may even have a go at a modest overclock!


You'll definitely love the SSD!!! (I know I do :)). I'm a rookie at OC'ing, but my MB + BIOS made it extremely simple (automatically changing the voltage while I only had to increase the CPU ratio) and I was easily able to get it to OC at 4.5GHz. Of course, I do like to game on this machine as well.
2014/06/30 14:51:44
Jim Roseberry
SvenArne
Stock cooler = heave it away with great force! Noisy and poor performance. I wonder why they keep including it if any self-respecting rig builder will throw it in the trash anyway?



We've thrown away truck loads of stock coolers.
Probably should look into recycling the metal.   
Never use them...
 
2014/06/30 15:35:18
jeffb63
Jim Roseberry
SvenArne
Stock cooler = heave it away with great force! Noisy and poor performance. I wonder why they keep including it if any self-respecting rig builder will throw it in the trash anyway?



We've thrown away truck loads of stock coolers.
Probably should look into recycling the metal.   
Never use them...
 




You could have probably built your own fleet of 747s by now!
2014/06/30 17:34:35
jcschild
Jim Roseberry
SvenArne
Stock cooler = heave it away with great force! Noisy and poor performance. I wonder why they keep including it if any self-respecting rig builder will throw it in the trash anyway?



We've thrown away truck loads of stock coolers.
Probably should look into recycling the metal.   
Never use them...
 


last run was $275.  I have a press just for punching out the copper cores
take the bums (err employees) to lunch with it!
2014/07/01 00:11:46
Jim Roseberry
jeffb63
Jim Roseberry
SvenArne
Stock cooler = heave it away with great force! Noisy and poor performance. I wonder why they keep including it if any self-respecting rig builder will throw it in the trash anyway?



We've thrown away truck loads of stock coolers.
Probably should look into recycling the metal.   
Never use them...
 




You could have probably built your own fleet of 747s by now!




Don't tell the locals... they might break into the place looking for copper.  
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