See...I was right! There are some very funny folks here.

Julien you hit a biggy. One that I consider and almost prevents me from saying
anything negative about anything at all.
The economy. Man it's tuff on everybody and although I may have opinions that
may be taken as negative -rather than issues I have- like with X2 or opinions about the forum - I without doubt care more about the well being of the folks that work with/for the
company and the last thing I'd want to see is more people without a job.
I'll take the forum and issues with X2 over that anyday.

Julien the computer resolving the issue can be what it takes. I don't know. I do know you've said nothing that has set wrong with me. I too respect you and your thoughts...if I didn't understand or disagree I'd point out either. I know we can analyze/discuss ...misunderstandings can be a trick to deal with....

Please don't misunderstand my "wordy" posts Julien. I sure wouldn't say anything intentionally to hurt or make anybody uncomfortable.
My statements were directed at those so called engineers that sure don't mind telling everybody how to act and what's up but then offer nothing for example so their words can take meaning. They sure don't mind hurting somebodies feelings...that has been shown
many times.
I also realized the way the forum works they could be somebody that doesn't even use Cake software.
I know I could read about another product and go on their forum and talk a great game and start a rukus there. That's BS and that's why I thought log-in for registered users was
a good idea. It would at least filter those bozos out....well they could post their bull with the trolls anyway.

Thanks for caring enough to mention things Julien.
Michael

Hope the phobia doesn't stop you from enjoying what you want to do Julien. You know whatever it is the folks here are going to support you.

One of the main tenets of Neuru Linguistic Programming (NLP) is that the event is neutral (any event), but how you respond to the event is what's important.

craigb


One of the main tenets of Neuru Linguistic Programming (NLP) is that the event is neutral (any event), but how you respond to the event is what's important.

Ya.

sharke

paulo

We'll obviously never agree on FB so no point in going there, you seem like a nice guy and all, but you seem to be arguing against yourself a little there. You start off by saying FB is a good method of id because of the work that they do to ensure that accounts are legit and proper and then go on to say how easy it is to set up an account with zero personal info just so that you could gain access to places that require FB login.  Ermm..... am I missing something ?

  Facebook, like Google, employs some pretty nifty algorithms that we'll probably never fully know about or understand. I suspect that there are a ton of ways that they can detect potential duplicate accounts, multiple accounts created from the same IP in a relatively short space of time being one of them. 


Here's a little clue from a Facebook spokesman although it's still a little vague:

“Facebook has always been based on a real name culture. This leads to greater accountability and a safer and more trusted environment for our users. It¹s a violation of our policies to use a fake name or operate multiple accounts. We have a dedicated User Operations team that reviews these reports and takes action as necessary.
We also have technical systems in place to flag and block potential fake accounts based on name and anomalous site activity. One of these technical systems has been displaying a warning to users we believe may be operating multiple accounts, while we are not taking action on these warnings at the moment, we have been notifying users that they may be violating our policies. We are constantly iterating on these systems and developing new ones, to provide an even better experience for the people who use our service.”  

       

First thing to note is that they have a team dedicated to reviewing reports of multiple accounts. Straight away you can see how much better that is than a simple anonymous email login (how many email providers even try to detect multiple accounts?). Second, there are the "technical systems" in place to "flag and block potential fake accounts based on name an anomalous site activity." Sounds complicated, but you can imagine a typical scenario: two different Facebook accounts, both registered from the same IP, who are both liking or posting comments on the same site. 

I'm sure you know far more about this than me as I have zero interest in FB. My point was that you originally said that FB was a reasonably good proof of id, but then said how easy it would be to set up an account with zero personal info. Which is it ?
 
That aside, take this very easily imaginable scenario..... A family with  three kids residing in the same home get their first computer and internet connection. All three share the same last name and have similar first names - Jane, James, Janet, ....whatever. They all want to go on FB and set up accounts which as they are sharing a computer / connection also share an IP address.  They are of similar ages and like similar things / join the same groups or whatever they're called etc.. would these be viewed as fake/duplicate accounts ?  Imagine the same scenario with another family who because of 2nd marriages etc all have different last names, but one computer / IP. Would these count as fakes / duplicates ? The answer in my experience is no because I know of families that these scenarios represent who all use FB with no issues (other than the fact that they are all mugs for using it in the first place obviously ! ;) )
 
I'm not trying to pick a fight with you or to say that you're wrong and I'm right - we're probably both wrong, it matters not, I just don't see FB as any kind of solution to what is being discussed here.
 
 To implement such a rule would probably more likely result in the loss
of decent forum members than it would the idiots who will always find a way to circumvent such things. We all know that there are / have been people on here with multiple "personalities", but so what - let them have their sad little arguments with themselves and either laugh at them or ignore them.  Attention is what they crave, so any kind of action to prevent their pathetic little games will only serve to encourage them.
 
 
 

chefmike8888

I read somebody suggesting the forum should have a log-in for registered users. It was a way to filter out those that may be just inquiring about the software and trolls.

I've always said this.
The argument I got was what if someone is actually interested in purchasing a Cake product and has a few questions?

It's not that people not registered couldn't read the forums, they just cant post.

Yet another good reason for Cakewalk to have a toll-free number for consumer inquires AND tech support.


I find it hard to believe that it's 2013 and there are still big corporations like Cakewalk/Roland that don't have toll-free numbers for their product.


Just my 2 pence.


Mike  

We do have a toll free number:


http://www.cakewalk.com/about/contact.aspx

Andrew Rossa [Cakewalk
]

chefmike8888

I read somebody suggesting the forum should have a log-in for registered users. It was a way to filter out those that may be just inquiring about the software and trolls.

I've always said this.
The argument I got was what if someone is actually interested in purchasing a Cake product and has a few questions?

It's not that people not registered couldn't read the forums, they just cant post.

Yet another good reason for Cakewalk to have a toll-free number for consumer inquires AND tech support.


I find it hard to believe that it's 2013 and there are still big corporations like Cakewalk/Roland that don't have toll-free numbers for their product.


Just my 2 pence.


Mike  

We do have a toll free number:


http://www.cakewalk.com/about/contact.aspx

LOOLZ....pwned!!1!1!!

I'd find that much funnier if I weren't in Canada. 

:-(

...

jk... it's still funny... but it's getting expensive trying to figure out whether you guys have Prince Albert in a can. I... MUST... KNOW!

Jonbouy

Andrew Rossa [Cakewalk
]

chefmike8888

I read somebody suggesting the forum should have a log-in for registered users. It was a way to filter out those that may be just inquiring about the software and trolls.

I've always said this.
The argument I got was what if someone is actually interested in purchasing a Cake product and has a few questions?

It's not that people not registered couldn't read the forums, they just cant post.

Yet another good reason for Cakewalk to have a toll-free number for consumer inquires AND tech support.


I find it hard to believe that it's 2013 and there are still big corporations like Cakewalk/Roland that don't have toll-free numbers for their product.


Just my 2 pence.


Mike  

We do have a toll free number:


http://www.cakewalk.com/about/contact.aspx

You may have to explain this concept to Jonbouy Andrew.  I don't think he's wired to understand how "toll free" can be beneficial. 
 

Beepster


I'd find that much funnier if I weren't in Canada. 

:-(

...

jk... it's still funny... but it's getting expensive trying to figure out whether you guys have Prince Albert in a can. I... MUST... KNOW!

Nah, we let him out - whiny little git.