So, you guys who stuck to 8.5.3 (McQ, Timidi, Ol'Pal) ... are you saying that the X's are unstable?

I mean, if you venture upstairs, there's a lot of folks who greatly disagree with you and say the problem is your guys's PC.

Maybe it's time to upgrade that buggy old Studio Cat machine there ol' pal and get something stable that will run the X series? 'cording to Mr. Roseberry, he's not seeing any problems with the X's.

Sorry ... I couldn't resist, seeing how it's Bapu's birthday tomorrow and knowing how he likes train wrecks so much. I just thought I'd start one down here, maybe invite a few friends along from upstairs to help him celebrate.

Sincerely,

Bub.

@Spacey, I'm really sorry to hear that's happening.

Now you know, unfortunately, what a lot of people have been going through since day 1 of X1's release. Same with Jamesyoyo upstairs.

Man I know if anybody knows how I feel...
and I sure don't mind the humor Tim.

I've thought all evening and just really lost about how to proceed.
I just end up thinking I shouldn't have to be dealing with this. It's the only
thought that makes sense.
I mean after all these years of them working on a program and they sell me
one that's like this?...it's not like I installed it on some weird off the wall computer.
And even if it were I can't imagine it even running like this.

From my viewpoint I can only see it as- if I had anything to do with the production of the
product I'd be ashamed. I'd also probably feel exactly like I'm feeling...lost and let-down looking
for a direction to go.
Pretty sad about the whole thing.

I just don't understand that I use one of the best computers made by a company that sells more computers
to more people than we can imagine and it comes loaded with a OS that is used by more people than we can
imagine and I use Cakes software and their interface to do one thing - audio processing- and it won't work.

I just can't wrap my head around how friggin' nuts that is. Is there really that many millions of people using the same
computers with the same OS? I guess so because they're sure selling the hell out of them and I know Microsoft is
the biggest I've ever heard of...and Cake sells software that won't work on the biggest selling computer with the most
popular operating system...?.....I'm just a guitarist but that seems stupid as hell to me. Then it pisses me off thinking they
can get away with it.
I think they should have to refund every penny I've spent on their stuff. Not because it's the right thing to do...because they
aren't standing here so I can kick 'em the nuts and they can feel like me about it.

Sorry...but just seemed to make sense that they'd understand. Nuts.

I'm having trouble tonight too, lots of crashes and hangs. And I am STILL having this huge ongoing problem with the settings of Native Instruments plugs not being saved. I have the Solid Bus Comp on the master track that is silent every time I open the project (I have to select a preset to kick start it), and my instances of the VC-2A compressor have the peak reduction dial turned all the way down every time too. I'm truly sick and tired of having to set all of this stuff up again every time I open the project. 

I thought things may have been fixed after I ran all the updates in my Native Instruments service center, but noooo....there is definitely some clash between X2 and NI plugs. You expect this kind of weirdness from obscure freeware plugs, but come on, Native Instruments is huge. 

spacey

Then it pisses me off thinking they can get away with it.

That's the worst part of it all ... the arrogance of these software companies.

Believe me, if there was any chance that I could get my money back and put it in to another solution, I would have done it way back when X1 came out.

I would have actually stuck with 8.5.3, and bought some decent VST's.

Another thing I don't like about X2, I think it's great that it automatically checks for updates, but there really needs to be a way to turn that off. I hate that Big Brother crap. The next step is online authorization only, then i-Lok.

And we're the criminals. Hah.

If I could take the solid, "built like a tank," functionality of Reaper.  The ease, features, and work flow of Sonar.  And the sheer beauty of bidule...  I would be in producer heaven...

Hope you're feeling better now Michael!

Well I just awoke and was hoping to find a Cake representative
asking me to send my computer and interface to them and they
would send it back working like a fine custom made spacey guitar...

Then I just awoke and realized I was only dreaming and feeling exactly
like I have since I used the cursed program.

But even so...thank you Craig. I too hope everyone that is dealing with
the same nightmare is feeling well enough to hang in.

Man, I feel bad for you - particularly because I'm one of the annoying ones who seem to be having no problems with X2a/W8 right now.  It's very clear to me that although stable under some conditions (and mine was a completely new PC with fresh install of W8 and X2 only) there are some major issues that are very easily triggered.  I'm also a relatively 'light' user - most of my stuff is VSTi based with the exception of guitar input via a ZoomX2.  I use volume and mod wheel envelopes but not extensively.  I find the editing process for them highly irritating, and worse in X2 that ever before.

Sorry I can't be of any more help.

Bub


So, you guys who stuck to 8.5.3 (McQ, Timidi, Ol'Pal) ... are you saying that the X's are unstable?

The boxed version of X1 that Cakewalk sent me would have killed my computer with the ASIO driver bug IF I had installed it. I would have needed a disk image back up just to get past bios. Luckily for me... that happened to enough other innocent bystanders that I had warning and didn't give Cakewalk the chance to kill my computer too.





One of the X1_ versions did work on my computer... it seemed stable enough for me to make a few videos showing all the bugs that I purchased with X1.




Then I realized that every time I opened X1 I was looking at the symptoms of Cakewalk being abandoned by it's original developers... so I uninstalled it and I stopped focusing on the idea that Cakewalk was encouraging me to take my money else where. Let's not mince words... Cakewalk representatives actually suggested I try other DAWs as a work around to problems I observed with SONAR. 




  
Then Greg Hendershott bailed on us confirming my opinion that the past 5 years of "upgrades" have been nothing but empty promises meant to keep our cash flowing.




The bugs I work around in 8.5.3 were in 2.0.... they were never going to get fixed. I know that now.




What's next?






best regards,
mike