I still have my cassette based Tascam 8-Track. I can emphatically say, without a doubt, I have never lost a moments work in the 20 years I've owned it. It's never once automatically rewound the tape, erased it, and left it blank.

Hey Bub, 
So you've never experience a ripped/torn/worn-out cassette-tape?   
How do those 20 year old cassettes play?  Do you bake them before use?
Just having fun...   

bapu

CakeAlexS


What do you get if you increase your post numbers? Does somebody send a gold watch? 

Nope. You get grief from those with (significantly) less posts than you. Or so I'm told.

Good grief!
 
 
 
 
 
That is.

To the original poster - I have read this entire thread, and have made no post to the thread until this one.

1.  I believe most everybody so far has wished you the best with the software you have chosen to use for yourself.  I certainly do as well, we all have our own opinions as to what works or does not work, as far as functionality, stability, and work flow.  If you are happy with whatever you use, keep on using it, and more power to you.

2.  If there are any particular issues with X2 or X2a that you would like reviewed and any assistance in either solving or finding a workaround for, please post each issue as its own separate thread, and you will likely find many folks willing to assist you, if possible - as long as you help the helpers by providing clear explanations as to what each issue is, and hopefully can provide detailed steps to recreate the problems, so that we can try to help you figure out how to get past each of the issues.  I will certainly do my best to help you, should you post any such threads.

3.  I happen to have X2a installed on my computer, and it happens to run without crashing.  I am not saying that to be smug, or to claim that X2a is anything it is not.  That just happens to be my particular experience.  There are others with similar stability with X2a, and with others having similar success with differing versions.  At the same time, there are LOTS of people that have run across legitimate bugs while trying to use Sonar, at lots of differing release versions - their experiences are FAR different than mine.  The X2a maintenance release addressed something like 250 bugs - REAL problems with the software.  So, please understand that I am not making light of your situation, or laying my experience out there with any sense of smugness or anything like that.  I am not.  I am only indicating that it CAN work, in at least my particular situation.  In saying that, I am HOPING that by collective analysis of your particular hardware and software environment, along with analyzing the particular issues that you are having, that PERHAPS we can between you and the collective 'us' come up with some kind of way for you to be able to use Sonar X2a or whatever works - to be able to have you record and produce music successfully, without pulling your hair out in the process.

3.  I am not at all interested in continuing any sort of bashing in this thread - it is pointless and non productive.  I accept that you are having a bunch of problems with Sonar, and if you are willing to try to work with me, whether here in the forum, or privately through a series of private messages - or I will send you my private email if that is better or easier for you - I will try to provide you the best help I can.

There have been others who have posted venting threads of rage, and some of those have ended up being willing to try to work through the issues - one at a time - and some have not, but what I am trying to say that there have been a couple of successes - where people who have stuck it out have ended up getting past their Sonar issues and are finally able to get things recorded/mixed/mastered/published.

If you are willing to stick it out, I am more than willing to try to assist you, and I will do so without bashing you, the other software you are using, or any other area - I will just freely do my best to try to help you work through the issues to the best of my ability.

To the other posters - please give my offer to help the original poster some time to work, without jumping in to continue with the negativity - I don't care who said what first, and all of that - I just want to see if some of his issues can get resolved.

If the original poster has moved on, so be it, best of luck.  If he is still here, then I stand by my offer to try to help, if at all possible.

Bob Bone

pbognar

chuckebaby

pbognar


While the tone of the OP's diatribe is lacking, he has some points, which could have been make in a more acceptable manner:  
1)  It is noteworthy that some DAW software seems to be more forgiving of hardware configuration.
 
2)  Mixcraft is a great value for what it is... and it is not a "toy"
 
http://www.acoustica.com/mixcraft/pdf/Keyboard_Magazine_Review_Dec_2012.pdf
 
3)  The improvements from version 4 through 6 are quite remarkable
 
4)  They used a public beta program - smart move

it all depends on what kind of producing your doing,myself i look at it as a toy.
how would you compare it against sonar x2 ?
 
do you feel the flow is the same ?
just curious.maybe im missing something or are we really comparing mixcraft against x2.
 
the sizes are very different,200 mb for mixcraft.
6 gb for x2 and that minus the added content,thats only the basic package of the daw and plug ins.

If you read Craig Anderton's review, it is apparent that you can't compare Mixcraft to X2.  X2 has far more features (some which work some or most of the time). 
 
I suppose if what you are trying to accomplish can be done in Mixcraft, X2 could be frustrating, without taking a deep dive to learn it.  On top of that, when X2a has bugs (for some people) which could interrupt the musical flow - more frustration.
 
Just saying...
 
 

im sorry when i wrote this earler i was under the impression that you were using x2.
i just saw another thread of yours(asking what you should be concerned about running Sonar Home studio 6 on win 7 x64. 
 
just saying

Jim Roseberry

I still have my cassette based Tascam 8-Track. I can emphatically say, without a doubt, I have never lost a moments work in the 20 years I've owned it. It's never once automatically rewound the tape, erased it, and left it blank.

Hey Bub, 
So you've never experience a ripped/torn/worn-out cassette-tape?   
How do those 20 year old cassettes play?  Do you bake them before use?
Just having fun...   

I God! Don't tell me I have to bake those too! I gotta do that this weekend before it's too late.

I was a beta tester for Mixcraft. Nice piece of software. One could make music on the software all day. So enjoy it. I prefer the many more options X2 presents to us users. Rock solid. Did I mention X2 is rock solid. Doesn't make me a fanboi to use a software that works. I suggest you do the same. Time for you and your agenda to move on. Tired of you now.

chuckebaby

pbognar

chuckebaby

pbognar


While the tone of the OP's diatribe is lacking, he has some points, which could have been make in a more acceptable manner:  
1)  It is noteworthy that some DAW software seems to be more forgiving of hardware configuration.
 
2)  Mixcraft is a great value for what it is... and it is not a "toy"
 
http://www.acoustica.com/mixcraft/pdf/Keyboard_Magazine_Review_Dec_2012.pdf
 
3)  The improvements from version 4 through 6 are quite remarkable
 
4)  They used a public beta program - smart move

it all depends on what kind of producing your doing,myself i look at it as a toy.
how would you compare it against sonar x2 ?
 
do you feel the flow is the same ?
just curious.maybe im missing something or are we really comparing mixcraft against x2.
 
the sizes are very different,200 mb for mixcraft.
6 gb for x2 and that minus the added content,thats only the basic package of the daw and plug ins.

If you read Craig Anderton's review, it is apparent that you can't compare Mixcraft to X2.  X2 has far more features (some which work some or most of the time). 
 
I suppose if what you are trying to accomplish can be done in Mixcraft, X2 could be frustrating, without taking a deep dive to learn it.  On top of that, when X2a has bugs (for some people) which could interrupt the musical flow - more frustration.
 
Just saying...
 
 

im sorry when i wrote this earler i was under the impression that you were using x2.
i just saw another thread of yours(asking what you should be concerned about running Sonar Home studio 6 on win 7 x64. 
 
just saying

That's fair game.


I was a Logic PC refugee and came to Cakewalk starting at MC3 => HS6XL => 8 PE => 8.5.3 PE => X1d Expanded.


I was spoiled with the notation editor in Logic.

It's been mentioned on other threads that the limited Staff View worked best in Sonar 7 PE.


So the closest I have to 7 PE is HS6.  I wanted to experiment with SV in HS6 again and I also wanted to revisit a less bloated version of Cakewalk, with a stripped down interface.

I will consider upgrading to X2 when a) there is a patch which most on the forum are comfortable with and b) when SV behaves at least as well as 8.5.3.  It is demoralizing to see SV functionality actually degrade with each successive release.

I only use about 5-10 tracks of audio, with the rest being MIDI - and I think in terms of notes on a staff, realizing of course that the PRV is required for time based edits.

I'm not satisfied with any DAW currently.  If I weren't putting kids through college, and was smart enough to realize early on that Sonar's SV would never improve, I would probably have a Mac and be running Logic Pro.  Instead I spent loads of money on upgrades.

Last Summer I also bought probably the last copy of PT MP9, yet haven't had the free time to install it and check it out.  There are a couple of other options for the Windows platform out there, but switching is not cheap.


Sorry to be taking up Cakewalk forum bandwidth with my tale.

Just saying.

John


Mr. Particle why are you here? What do you expect from us? Do you really believe you are going to recruit converts?

To Be Honest:
After what I have been through the past few days with this piece of crap release, I am tempted to go investigate other DAWs.

@jamesyoyo.. While investigate other DAW's can be usefull, I would like to say I am already using other DAW's (Cubase 7, Live 8) together with Sonar. Every DAW has it strengths and weakness. An none of them is bug free. I am not saying you would not use another DAW (I obviously do), but don't fall in the "grass greener" trap. Every DAW has things you can, and will be, frustrated about. Be prepared to do a lot of learning also. All I want to say boils down to - just use the tool you need to accomplish what you have in mind, and do not care how that tool is named. After all - it is only a tool in the chain of the creative process..

I tell you what, I been working in a Mac pro Intel with a DIGI 003 and Pro Tools with tons of ram and processor power for about 2 years, from time to time I found crashes and errors, just like Sonar on Windows...