Anderton


Well John, I think so much depends on what you want to do. Mixcraft has really good video capabilities, and a lot of very useful loops. Some people see it as a sound library for needledrop music with a DAW attached, others as a direct-to-YouTube way to generate videos to post their music online.

I think it's vital to this industry that products exist for all levels of users, as well as for users with a variety of needs. Sonar X2 is overkill for some people, but I need all the tools it offers so I'm really glad it exists.
 
Back in the day, when people were transitioning from 2" 24-track to digital, I always recommended Pro Tools simply because it followed that tape/mixer paradigm more closely than any other program. But after quite a few of those people became comfortable with "DAW-think," they ended up finding other programs that were better-suited to what they wanted to do. Still, I don't think they could have made that transition without the intermediate step. And of course, some people stuck with Pro Tools because all they really needed was a replacement for tape and a mixer.

I think more to the point here is that this is a child (yes, for real, a child) here to make trouble. He lives for this.
This is very easily seen in his other ridiculous childish thread.
I do not understand why CW allows this garbage on here.
 
It's not about standing up for Sonar, it's about a child coming here to make trouble and get folks upset. And obviously he has.
 
I did get caught up in it last time, my bad. Not this time.

chuckybaby reckons:

 
{Quote} 1: i had to see what all the hoopla was about so i checked it out as well.  i'm not just saying this to be negative to mr godparticles.  but honestly, 2: It reminded me of pro audio 9 in many ways.  3: Very simple interface, gui looks more like a coloring book than a professional DAW.  4: And very limited features, like automation for example, there's only a few different parameters.  5: The effects are bland and weak and resemble more of something you would download as a free plug in from KVR. {Unquote} 

My response to number...

1: So there was enough doubt about using Sonar for him to be compelled to take a look at Mixcraft
 
2: Which means nothing. 
 
3: Finally a DAW company that knows how to design a simple interface while still providing every feature one could want to make any kind of music imaginable without the endless irrelevant superfluous menus of junk that only serve to confuse and strain one's memory every time they try to use their DAW. 
 
4: Total non-truth and misnomer. So here is the description taken from the Mixcraft feature-list... 
 
-New Automation features provide automated control of all parameters in any VST effect, VSTi instrument, or Mixcrafts own effects. All tracks can contain an unlimited number of automation curves on an unlimited number of effects and instruments. In addition, you can even automate the track volume & panning, and more.
-Master Track allows you to smoothly automate the global effects parameters and master volume, for smooth and easy fade-ins and fade-outs for your mixes 
 
5: The download trial of Mixcraft only provides a few of the basic effects that are available in the full version. The full Pro 6 version of Mixcraft is bristling with effects, many of which are very usable. And actually, that is the best place to save on the cost of Mixcraft. At only $149 for the Pro 6 version, that leaves me $349 to spend before reaching the same cost as Sonar, but it puts me in a position to buy EXACTLY the effects and plugins i need and thus end-up with a DAW that easily rivals Sonar for the same money, but with far better stability, far fewer bugs (actually, none), and superior low-latency performance that needs no special drivers to get true PRO performance.




Actually, someone in here had the gall to say Mixcraft has no PDC, are you people on drugs? 


While i'm here, to offset all the lies about Mixcraft and the two-cent putdowns, i might as well show you some more of the features that gives Mixcraft pro-status, straight from their feature list. 


1: 32 bit SSE2-optimized sound engine supports recording and playback of broadcast quality audio up to 192 kHz and 32 bits.

2: Time stretch any sound from 25% to 400% with FlexAudio™ without affecting the pitch.
 
3: Support for up to 16 processor cores takes full advantage of today's cutting-edge multi-processor computers. (Which explains why i have only ever managed to use 23% of my Quad-Core i7 running the most humongous projects in realtime)

4: WaveRT Exclusive Mode (available with Windows 7 and up) provides ultra-low-latency, solid audio performance on most audio hardware without any special sound card drivers. With WaveRT Exclusive Mode, Mixcraft can interface directly with the audio hardware, bypassing the operating system for low-latency audio performance without any special drivers.


(And thus explains why i get zero latency performance under huge realtime loads that beggars belief, and apparently makes Sonar look like an amateur in comparison; all without any third-party audio interface) 
 
5: Burn CDs of your mix with just one click.
 
6: MIDI input and output support will work with any USB MIDI keyboard or any instrument connected to a MIDI interface. MIDI control surface support for transport controls, effect controls, and instrument controls 

7: Automatically detects beat locations, keys and tempos of imported songs.
 
8: Support for DirectX™ & VST™ effects, including plug-in delay compensation. 

9: ReWire Hosting allows you to sync other music applications with Mixcraft.

10: Submix Tracks allow grouping audio and MIDI tracks together to create a single submix. Output Tracks (aka Output Busses) allow grouping tracks to a single output bus (with support for multiple hardware outputs).

11: Mix To New Audio Track (aka Bouncing) allows you to mix down an Audio Track or Virtual Instrument Track, complete with all effects and automation, to a new audio track. This is a great one-click method to save CPU or “lock in” the edits and effects that have been applied to a track.

12: Archive your entire project to a ZIP file or new folder.

13: Powerful piano roll editor allows you to edit MIDI data easily. Create MIDI loops by adjusting the loop points. Edit notes and controller information with ease.
 
14: Split, cut, copy, delete and paste sounds with ease. 

15:Multi-monitor support lets you take full advantage of computers with multiple monitors. 


So please guys, lets be REAL! At the end of the day, even in comparison to Mixcraft, Sonar is just another "I also ran!" Pro DAW my ass.

How shall we f*ck off, O Lord?

Nice copy and paste job BTW. From what I understand verdana rules!

OK, godparticle, we get it. You are deliriously happy with your cheap little program. We like Sonar. Now please go make some music with your new love and leave the rest of us alone. Your rant is not enriching our lives or helping us make better music.

Your posts would probably be much more welcome on the forum for the product you use, if there is a forum for that. THIS forum is for those of us who enjoy using Sonar and want to get the most out of it. This thread has been a waste of time, even for you.

Still he did paste the feature sheet. We gasp in amazement. 32 bit woo! Still all that extra memory his app isn't able to use can be used to store high quality porn.Wow he has a laptop with 16 cores (has the CPU melted out of the bottom?) Wow it even copy's and pastes... What wonders. He truly is the Messiah!

Well, how to reply to that?
 
Never mind, Bub will be along shortly to agree with him.  What was the old saying about knowing people by the friends they keep?
 
@ the OP -If you like Mixcraft, and can produce the music you want on it, why bother looking elsewhere?  Make some great music.  Let them know you by your deeds.  All power to you.
 
I like Sonar.  I can produce the music I want on it.  For me, it is stable.
 
I have an HP desktop, have not tweaked my system apart from power management, I run Norton anti-virus, surf the web and record many tracks, MIDI, softsynth and audio, with relatively low latency.
 
I have had to tweak the settings in Sonar quite a bit, to get it to run well on my system, but now I have found the "sweetspot" it runs well.
 
This is not to say that other people aren't having problems.  I am not paranoid and think that anyone having a different experience to me is working for another DAW company.
 
I am real, do not work for Cakewalk, and am not delusional.  Yes, we are all individuals..
 
Now, how shall we f +ck off, Oh Lord?

Cool... I haven't seen a real troll in a while. How are things under the bridge?
 
Some things never change. People who cannot figure out how to use Sonar or don't have hardware that will work with it... then they, like so many these, blame everyone and everything except for them self... where the true blame lies.
 
Eh...
 
J

3: Finally a DAW company that knows how to design a simple interface while still providing every feature one could want to make any kind of music imaginable without the endless irrelevant superfluous menus of junk that only serve to confuse and strain one's memory every time they try to use their DAW.

 
And there you have it - Mixcraft has "every feature that one could want", while SONAR has "endless irrelevant superfluous menus of junk that only serve to confuse and strain one's memory".    It seems you have confirmed what others have implied (or outright stated).  
 

And what others have implied or outright stated is that Sonar is overly complex, convoluted, full of bugs and stability problems for at least 50% of users, and is a fu_cking drag to set-up in order to get standard everyday performance, and needs an expensive esoteric 3rd-party soundcard just to achieve half-arsed performance.
And you know what that says, it means that really Sonar hasn't got it where it counts, and everything else it does is no different than any other cheap DAW on the market.

And seeing as it's been confirmed that the upcoming Mixcraft 7 will be 64 bit and Windows 8 certified, i would say that puts me in a very good fu_king position, wouldn't you? Not to mention all the other goodies that are gonna be newly included.


At the start i was so enraptured with the thought of using Sonar, but alas, Cakewalk has brought this on themselves, their wretched track-record with bugs and increasingly worse patches is just a complete fu_k-up, and has been for the last decade, and more so than any other DAW company. Whereas other DAW companies have had their bad periods which got resolved, it was no where near as incessant and ongoing as Sonar's woes. The head programmer at cakewalk needs to be fired, simple as that. He's had ten years to get his act together, and what, nothing but one mess after a fuc_king nother.


So now that i have evaporated all the non-truths about Mixcraft and have proved it's credentials, all i'm getting is empty responses full of blah blah; it seems i've reduced you lot to a pack of bitter confused sarcastic types. Do you want some medication, i've got plenty here to go round ROFL... i win, you lose, AND NOW YOU MAY FU_CK-OFF!

Be gone demon! I adjure you to come out in the name of Jesus, whom Paul preaches. And the demon replied "Jesus i know and have to obey, and Paul i know, but who are you?" So the demon leaped on those men and bashed them violently, and those men went out of that house naked and wounded.
"I know who you are, you are Jesus, the son of God, have you come to cast me out before my time?" "Be quiet demon! come out of him now, and go to the dry places!" And the demon left that man at once, and the man sat humble and weeping, in his right mind, and glorified God who had given such power to Jesus, seeing as how he had been vexed with a legion of spirit demons. 

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