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  • Sonar X2 is highly questionable to say the least! (p.18)
2013/02/06 00:17:54
godparticle
I couldn't have put it better myself.
2013/02/06 00:19:00
chuckebaby
HERES A LIST OF PROBLEMS THERE HAVING OVER AT THE MIXCRAFT FORUM:
looks like there plug ins cause latency-
http://forums.acoustica.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=11083&sid=6def1a4fed8b5b29f696b4793458d91a

or how bout this one ,a kid with an,Intel i3 + 4 gigs of ram. his system cant keep up with it.(this was a little while back)
http://demon.acoustica.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?p=22765

or this one i love:
"Hi. I'm trying to get set up to make tutorial videos for Mixcraft 6.
But I'm having problems with Mixcraft experiencing fatal errors."
http://demon.acoustica.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?p=43137

or this one where users claim they cant run more than 20 tracks or they get crackles and pops.
http://demon.acoustica.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?p=42180
 
what about this kid with eratic timeline latency problems.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVosIeuPygs
 
 
you see every daw has problems somewhere,your claims are eritating not because you have a problem but which the way you are going about these problems,rather than acting like a child you shouls load sonar back up like a big boy and ask for help.
i know at this point it may be humiliating but there are good people on this forum will over look everything you have said and help you.
 
i am first on that list.
i will help you trouble shoot any issues you have with sonar the best i can.
im not saying i will make you happy,because thats up to you.
but darn it particle. you basically just threw away the best technology in digital audio recording to play with a daw that looks like it was manufactured in the late 90's bro.
 
you mixes will sound 20x better using sonar.
youve already wasted 4 bills if your throwing sonar away.
dump the craft and fire sonar back up and let us know whats going on.
 
we'll help you.
but thats up to you.
 
the ball is in your court now.
you make the choice.
2013/02/06 00:21:56
SuperG
Heh, Heh.... he's off his meds.  

C'mon y'all and grab a stick - It's fun to poke the monkey's cage!
2013/02/06 00:29:00
stevec

...Sonar is overly complex, convoluted, full of bugs and stability problems for at least 50% of users  
...and needs an expensive esoteric 3rd-party soundcard
...So now that i have evaporated all the non-truths about Mixcraft and have proved it's credentials, all i'm getting is blah blah blah blah in return; it seems i've reduced you lot to a pack of bitter confused sarcastic types.

 
You may be a little delusional, Ms. Particle, but still kind of funny.    Have a good night and enjoy the craft of mixing.   
 
 
 
PS...   I never thought of my little Scarlett 18i6 as an "esoteric 3rd party soundcard" before.  Cool.
 
2013/02/06 00:40:07
godparticle
Your unbelievable chuckybaby, more beguiling misnomers. You failed to state with your first link that the guy said normally he gets no such problems with latency on any other effect; might that mean that the SIR effect he was trying to use was at fault? I'd say so. Mixcraft has PDC, what part of that don't you understand??

That second link of yours, man oh man, try running Sonar on an i3 and then tell us what happens, you'd be better-off burning yourself at the stake than trying to put-up with running Sonar on an i3 with 4 gig of ram.

That third link of yours, well hey, 0.001 percent of users had a fatal error message, what are you trying to say? Sonar has 33% of users reporting such a friggin thing.

That fourth link of yours, well that guy is using Mixcraft 5 for god's sake.

Unbelievable man, chuckebaby comes in here with four links trying to diss the credibility of Mixcraft, and three of those links had no substance, and the other one sounds to me like he needs a registry cleaner. If those non-issue examples are the best you can come-up with, well hey, that is one hell of an endorsement for the stability of Mixcraft. 

Nothing to see here folks, move on, just a kaos agent spreading false propaganda.

Now would you like me to post all the links from sonar users having issues in the last 3 months? No, thought not, on your bike.

And FYI, i have already been told by the Mixcraft developers that Mixcraft 7 will have brand new graphics similar to Studio-One and Logic-Studio. Not that the graphics have anything to do with the sound. 

And how is Sonar gonna give me better sound chuckebaby? How? The integer maths for mixdown and recording in DAW's is all 'identical' across the board, and is the same for ANY DAW, just like the rubber on car tires, it's all identical. Anyone claiming otherwise hasn't got a clue. Thanks to the low cost of Mixcraft i was able to spend money getting high-end plugins like Lexicon reverbs and Izotope Mastering tools among others, so how the hell is Sonar gonna give me better sound?? Delusions of grandeur chuckebaby, or just self-deluded?


Next please.

2013/02/06 00:46:45
Bub
"Now would you like me to post all the links from sonar users having issues in the last 3 months?" ............ Actually, yes, I would like to see that. We tried that before with X1. It was an amazing eye opener if I remember correctly.
2013/02/06 00:59:21
dubdisciple
i downloaded mixcraft once and it sucked yak schlong...and not in a good, monica lewinsky, hail to the chief way. Honestly I found Acid more useful. I had a friend that used mixcraft , but he admitted he was too lazy to try a more advanced DAW (and he included FL studio in that list). Even he eventually ditched Mixcraft. Not trying to insult Mixcraft (despite my crude analogy), but it's just not in the same ballpark. That is what makes this thread so funny. Some angst filled kid comes in hear singing the praise of a toy and people jump on it because they are so defensive about their precious Sonar. I like Sonar too, but not enough to fight trolls over it. If he genuinely feels the why he does about Mixcraft then let him. Who cares. I could never imagine going to the Mixcraft or any other product forum and post Sonar specs. I would defend my family or my gf that vigorously, but not a piece of software.
2013/02/06 01:01:16
sharke
Hi Godparticle. Nice to see you back. Any word on when you're going to post some examples of the "banging club tunes" that you're making with Mixcraft? We're so awfully eager to hear them. What are you afraid of? 
2013/02/06 01:04:20
sharke
dubdisciple


i downloaded mixcraft once and it sucked yak schlong...and not in a good, monica lewinsky, hail to the chief way. Honestly I found Acid more useful. I had a friend that used mixcraft , but he admitted he was too lazy to try a more advanced DAW (and he included FL studio in that list). Even he eventually ditched Mixcraft. Not trying to insult Mixcraft (despite my crude analogy), but it's just not in the same ballpark. That is what makes this thread so funny. Some angst filled kid comes in hear singing the praise of a toy and people jump on it because they are so defensive about their precious Sonar. I like Sonar too, but not enough to fight trolls over it. If he genuinely feels the why he does about Mixcraft then let him. Who cares. I could never imagine going to the Mixcraft or any other product forum and post Sonar specs. I would defend my family or my gf that vigorously, but not a piece of software.

I'm not familiar with Mixcraft, but I think some DAW's are more suited toward people who want to make EDM with as much algorithmic assistance as possible, i.e. having the DAW create grooves for them, and re-grooving stuff into perpetual variations etc. I make EDM and electronic and prefer to do everything from scratch myself, composition wise. I'm sure that if I was that kind of EDM producer then I'd get a lot out of DAW's like Abelton, Reason, Mixcraft etc. 
2013/02/06 01:11:23
godparticle
Mixcraft doesn't do **** for anyone, we gotta do everything from scratch, it has no beat-mixing tools or arrpegiators at all. 

As to your previous post. I would prefer that you just turn-up at the club and see what people do with their bodies when they are dancing to my tracks. THUMP THUMP THUMP THUMP at 144bpm, so what do i wanna do this time, ping the bass down to 5 hz, nah, too low, i'll ping it up to 50 hz, ahhh much better; now slam that kick-drum with Dcam-Bus compressor, ahhh, now ere cooking; so what do i wanna do with that raging phat lead-synth, i need some ambience, oh, i have a Lexicon reverb in my kit, put that mother in there, talk to me, OK lets get some Ozone 5 all over that, yummy yummy, ok, now what's for the clap, big and chunky, nice work, and now the hi-hat, well yeah, TR909 on the floor for that one.

This 42 year old teenager is having fun. Poppin pills with the girls coast-to-coast were pumpin. 

Come on sharke, give me a listen to your stuff then i might consider it.

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