Troll alert; let's not make this a three page thread. (Newb writes a bomber of a thread bashing the product and pimping a competitor?) DON'T FEED THE TROLLS. Let this thread sink. Thank you.

I joined in John because I figure it's only a matter of time before it's flushed.
I think it's cool me and Bub get the jump on our friends down there. :)
 
Ok..."Bub and I"...don't want Steve upset with me.

godparticle


Currently I am using Mixcraft Pro Studio 6 ....(Rant, rant, rant)........  

(Rant, Rant, Rant)....

Beam me up Scotty, i'm outta here, i can see the werewolves coming, 

(Rant, Rant, Rant).... 

EVER HEARD OF SIMPLICITY CAKEWALK?? Last i checked all i needed to make dance-music was effects, VST synths, midi input, basic audio recording, and a logical user interface and navigation with as few menus as possible. WHATS ALL THAT OTHER SH_T INSIDE SONAR, CAKEWALK?? UNBELIEVABLE MAN!! YOU JUST WON"T LISTEN WILL YOU, OH I FORGOT, CAKEWALK IS TOO GOOD FOR SIMPLICITY, they wanna be a wanna-be.

(Rant, Rant, Rant)......

Thanks - 
Lots of examples of simplicity there.  Sincerely,
A Smug user of SONAR X2 - 

at first i thought it was a mixcraft saleman,
he just venting.
 
the reason sonar has all those things is to appeal to a wide audience.
 

Um, this is the person who claimed he was getting insanely great results with his laptop's built-in audio in Mixcraft and was warned not to expect that with a full-fledged DAW. Welcome to reality.

http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.aspx?m=2751686

You've posted a few times now Godparticle and up until now I've given you the benefit of the doubt.  You said that you were pretty happy with Mixcraft but wanted to try out Sonar X2, however you insisted that you didn't use an audio interface with your current setup so you didn't see why you should get one with Sonar X2.  Everyone on the forum told you that you would need one, but you still insisted that you wouldn't and that the built in soundcard would be fine!  I posted saying "give it a go", not believing it would work, but interested to hear your experience.  Now you're back saying that Sonar X2 is rubbish.


Not only have you not followed the advice of everyone on the forum who has freely given their time and energy to help you but you've also come up with this huge diatribe, fully of general nastiness and inuendo.


I'm sorry I just don't believe you anymore.  You've got some sort of agenda going on that wants to promote Mixcraft at the expense of Sonar.  Sorry mate, you're sussed.  Just go away.  This is a forum for people who are genuinely trying to help each other out and educate each other on the subject, there's no place for your kind of nonsense.

Hi particle,
You are nearly 3 months a member of this forum.
Nobody knows why but you think you can use this forum
for incompetent ,superficial comments.
This is not OK even after 30  years!

To record, arrange,produce, mix and master music  is 
an art which needs a  high  knowledge about hardware 
(computer and music-equipment) years of practice and patience.

If one is not able to learn (to learn means  to ask questions aso) 
it´s still not possible, to create good sounding music,
even with a DAW like sonar and mixcraft,which make the recording process
nearly without issues soooo much easier.

StepD

Um, this is the person who claimed he was getting insanely great results with his laptop's built-in audio in Mixcraft and was warned not to expect that with a full-fledged DAW. Welcome to reality.

http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.aspx?m=2751686

At the risk of starting something awful ... and it's up to you if you or anyone else goes 'there' ... I'm currently running something other than Sonar that is a full fledge DAW on an 8 year old laptop using the built in sound 'card' (if you can call it that) with no problems other than VST limitations due to processor power, which is resolved by freezing.

Point is ... you can run a full fledged DAW on a laptops crappy sound card, there's some folks that actually prefer the sound of those cards for the same reason some guys prefer vintage analog gear. Some of them have a certain sound to them that isn't all that bad ...

I know it's easy to bust on a guy when he starts a thread like this ... (believe me I know :)), but he does make some valid points.

Yep, you can run Sonar on an old laptop using the crappy built-in audio. I have the exact same thing that I mess around with once in a while. But I definitely don't expect it to run as well as it does even on my crappy old desktop that has a decent audio interface (which runs insanely great btw). The point is, he was warned and didn't think it was the truth.

Only one thing he said made sense. The comment about if you just happen to get the right computer configuration.

A while back this forum had a thread complaining about Intel mounting the cpu in the board and taking away the options. If that is true then it won't be long until bugs become rare rather than the norm. Maybe a programmer can answer this: If the hardware options were narrowed down like that, would it be easier to code?