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2013/02/04 13:36:32
Splat
Nope Cake is not for you if you can't get it together fair enough

I myself hired a spiritualist to configure my PC to run cakewalk. I mean why should I have to do it? The afterlife haven't got much to do so heck let them do it. I couldn't believe it, I mean my PC runs World of Warcraft and MS Office... Surely cakes stupid software should be able to get it together and mind meld with my hardware. I mean why don't they come around and configure my hardware and make it stable. Heck if windows sound recorder works its gotta be cake eh? For 400 dollars I expect that sort of service.

Oh I forgot some exclamation marks, so here are some

!!!!!!!
2013/02/04 13:38:26
LpMike75
Interesting side note:
 
I have introduced Sonar to 5 other musicians, who are still using it.  I am the only one of them who visits the Sonar forum.  So in my small experience, only 1 of 5 users actually visit the forum.  This would make comparing forum members stats, to real world user stats, difficult. 
2013/02/04 13:38:28
Splat
PS I FORGOT. HERE ARE SOME CAPITAL LETTERS.
2013/02/04 13:50:27
godparticle
Seems that someone forgot to tell pragi that i do not have high knowledge of hardware and music software...and yet mixcraft performs like beautiful incense flowing all over my midi-controller. Well OK your ignorance is bliss to you...keep going, you'll get there, Sonar is so sophisticated.

Why is it that pro-tools style clip-volume, full automation of every mixing tool, extensive midi programming and comprehensive audio-manipulation and recording is not enough for some people, Mixcraft has it all and more. Name one thing Mixcraft can't do of any relevance to modern music and then i might start listening. Until then, you know that i know that self-deluded people have been a mainstay on the earth since year dot, Sonar is so professional. 
I have made music in Mixcraft that slammed the clubs silly with multiplex bliss, and not a soul could have known that is wasn't done in pro-tools, that's because Mixcraft does everything pro-tools or Sonar can do, and then some, but hey, clearly the truth is not enough for some people.

My tracks sound as complex as anything done by Usher or Beyonce, but oh i forgot, Mixcraft is a toy, but it just so happens that someone forgot to tell me LOL.

I've heard tracks done in Sonar that sound like child's-play, and yet people make music in Mixcraft that transcends any expectation of what is possible in modern music. You people just don't get it do you.

The inbuilt laptop soundcard doesn't have any bearing on my final sound, it is merely there for monitoring, so seeing as how i make dance-music only, using only VST's etc, after that everything gets mixed down internally through pure integer and binary-code without touching the soundcard, as with all DAW's. 

To answer your query SGodfrey, i'm now getting even better performance on my new laptop than before. 3rd generation i7, 8gig ram, and lo and behold, an inbuilt soundcard that performs like it was made in heaven. How is it that your pro third-party outboard soundcards are not performing people, but with my inbuilt soundcard I haven't managed to make it click, pop or crack even once, and under enormous loads in realtime with zero latency. Seems that Sonar isn't that pro afterall; you guys need a reality check. Oh, that's right, it can't be true


2013/02/04 13:51:33
Splat
I can communicate with the dead. That makes me extremely knowledgeable with hardware and software. Please don't ask me how I do it or what I've done, its a mystery.
2013/02/04 14:02:08
Splat
> and lo and behold, an inbuilt soundcard that performs like it was made in heaven
 
I just read this... Well clearly you are a hardware expert with your mystery consumer sound card, you've worked out that if software X must work that software Y must work because you assume it must have the same hardware requirements ;). (trying not to laugh sorry).  Good luck with that...
2013/02/04 14:08:25
godparticle
Oh, lucky you; so your repudiations have been reduced to blah blah, you poor thing.

You might want to try listening for once in your life. 

In some ways Sonar users are like people who bite of their nose to spite their face, or like a battered wife who just won't leave her bastard of a violent husband. Ho ho, Sonar users have battered wife syndrome...ROFL: and yet they continue to say oh no, everything's fine! Denial is so insidiously dangerous. The grass is certainly greener boys, you just have to jump the fence, it can't be that hard.

The only thing in Sonar that has my attention is the Pro-channel; it would be handy just to give me extra options for the final result, but i'm confident that Presonus will be working on such a thing even as we speak, so not to worry. Mixcraft will do me fine until Studio One III is released, and ALL WITHOUT ISSUES. Enjoy Sonar, kiddies.
2013/02/04 14:09:56
StepD
godparticle, it sounds like what you really should be looking into is Reason or Fruity Loops. Both of those will probably blow Mixcraft out of the water for the style that you're into and will raise your self-proclaimed musical brilliance to levels unheard of in modern times.
2013/02/04 14:11:41
Bub
godparticle

Ho ho, Sonar users have battered wife syndrome...ROFL: and yet they continue to say oh no, everything's fine. Denial is so insidious.
PMPL!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I haven't laughed this hard in months. Oh my God I needed this thread. Thank you Lord.
2013/02/04 14:13:41
Splat
Or get Usher or Beyonce to check the Cakewalk hardware specs for you. In all seriousness the lesson you may have learned here is not all sound recording and sequencing software is the same. They have different hardware requirements and do different things. Gain a good inside knowledge of both products and it is clear as day. Sorry you are comparing a battleship with a rowing boat here.
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