jamesg1213


Y'know, this sampling/loop thing has been around for what, 30 years now?

Possibly time to get used to it. Or over it.

maybe you no understand'a ?
 
i use midi samples all the time.the ones i write.
i obviously offended you because you are probably a sampler..sorry.
drum machines created back in the early 80's and keyboards as well that used samples were different.
you actually need some sort of musical tallent to use them.
not a mouse to drag and drop,which is i asume how you do it?
no offense.
 
although by listening to your music it sounds pretty real to me.

@rain..good point,couldnt agree with you more.
it has been fun every part of the way.
i mostly play for me,which is like a theorpy in itself.

but i do find it offensive to see people calling themselvs musicians who are merly button pressers.

and when someone listens to my music,they instantly think i looped some drum part i copyed from a sample pack.
it only bothers me because i and you and everyone else now is in a catagory and not looked apon as an artist anymore.
say what you want,the word artist is now thrown around freely.

imabine a new drawing software,where you press a button and it draws a nose,then another button draws lips.
untill you finaly have a face.
he exports this photo to the internet and puts it up for auction.
is this art?
well theoreticaly yes,yes it is.
but a very dumed down art.
it sells for millions.now every artist decides hes going to draw the same way..so where does that leave the art community as artists?
it doesnt,it makes then all droid paintings.
the feelings,the thoughts,there gone and left to be reproduced by a bot.

you need not agree with me but you have to admit for the love of music.i dont want to see art turn that way.

Contrary to common belief, you can't stick a bunch of samples in the hands of someone with no talent and expect anything good to come of it.

chuckebaby

jamesg1213


Y'know, this sampling/loop thing has been around for what, 30 years now?

Possibly time to get used to it. Or over it.

maybe you no understand'a ?
 
i use midi samples all the time.the ones i write.
i obviously offended you because you are probably a sampler..sorry.
drum machines created back in the early 80's and keyboards as well that used samples were different.
you actually need some sort of musical tallent to use them.
not a mouse to drag and drop,which is i asume how you do it?
no offense.

I understand perfectly thanks.


No, I'm not a 'sampler' (there's music in my sig if you want to hear it) nor am I offended.


I'm 52 years old and have used drum machines and synths since they first appeared, now I use whatever gets me to the point I want to reach. I don't discount anything, it's whatever works to provides the texture for the music I'm working on.

i obviously offended you because you are probably a sampler

I did have a little laugh at this comment.

Personally I can not see James being offended but as he suggests follow the link in his sig it may prove to quite enlightening.

Perhaps the other question needs to asked. What is music?

Using samples as well as real instruments and utilizing some of the artificial intelligent things like Jamstix and Band in a Box.... that's all part of making music today. 


As smart as Jamstix is and BB... they will not write a song for you. The musician still has to tell them what he/she wants and give them chords and other things to create a song...... same with the guy who can't play a lick on a real guitar but has the talent to create cool music dragging beats and loops in to a multi-track DAW..... and mixing it. 

Just for grins a few months back I set out to do a totally looped song using only the loops in X1. 

http://soundclick.com/share.cfm?id=11450431

Obviously I did not spend much time on this, I think about 2 hrs total searching the loops library to find things that worked. It didn't evolve outta nothing.... I had to plan it out and create it. 

String bender, data pusher...... 

Isn't that what a musician does? 

Y'know, this sampling/loop thing has been around for what, 30 years now?
　
yeah, but I think Chuck was mostly referring to the music generating software programs.
type in a chord and music plays automatically.
 
It's frightening how good GarageBand and BIAB have evolved. Garitan has a new $150 program that generates some very nice orchestral pieces.
 
All you need is IRIS (push a few keys) and you can do some very nice movie trailers with minimal effort.
 
All this new technology is great in many aspects but if you are a musician part of you has to hate where all this is heading.

tom1
 
All this new technology is great in many aspects but if you are a musician part of you has to hate where all this is heading.

Why?
 
Unlike Chuck I spent my time learning for me. I'm not threatened by technology or other musicians.
 
I think it's great that people like BIABDUDE can enjoy music as best he can and enjoys hanging here
with people that share all aspects of music. I personally would never want to offend or make anybody
trying to enjoy music feel unwanted or bad.
 
In short I just think one is better off working on self improvement rather than judging others.....
especially when one demonstrates how bad their assessment skills may be- such as you've done Charlie with your
remarks towards James.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Meh. The day my fingers and twisted mind can be replaced by a machine is the day I just call it quits but it ain't ever gonna happen... at least not in my lifetime.

Don't look at it as a threat. Look at it as a challenge to be met.

hmm... I should write that down.

;-p

Sampling goes back more than 30 years the first Chamberlins where made in the late 1940's.