2013/01/31 07:42:24
jamesg1213
Completely respect your opinion Chris.

For the record, I'm not a fan of any of the bands I mentioned, never could stand The Specials. I do like Bragg's 'Levi Stubbs Tears' though. The only anti-Thatcher song I actually have in my collection is this one;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKe_fKjaI8k


2013/01/31 08:26:06
SteveStrummerUK
The film came across to me as little more than a bad parody.

Spitting Image tackled the subject much better, and I'd argue, more poignantly.

Still remember this now, classic...

The Scene: Thatcher and her ministers are sat around a table in a restaurant, she is reading the menu..

Waitress (to Maggie, seated at the head of the table): Are you ready to order sir?

Thatcher: Yes, I will have a steak.
 
Waitress: How do you like it?

Thatcher: Oh.... raw please.
 
Waitress: And what about the vegetables?

Thatcher: Oh.... they'll have the same as me.
 
2013/01/31 08:47:54
jbow
Was that the same song as the FACES Not Gonna work on Maggie's Farm No More? Don't remember the exact title..

J

I didn't care for the dead husband constantly in the picture. IT portrayed her as insane... but perhaps it showed her as able to overcome it. I have no idea if that part was pure fantasy or what.

Perhaps it is fr another thread but I would really be interested to hear firsthand what it was really like when the Streling fell from grace as the World Reserve Currency... and not ut of simple curosity. I see a real possibility of the same thing happening to the dollar soon and Americans have absolutely no clue that it might happen or what the result would be. Maybe just a few stories would help me to understand. I have read a little but personal views are always better. I', not so much interested in why but in what was the result in real life. That should be well within the TOS... and would be helpful, not that I think it will change anything.

Thanks,

Julien
2013/01/31 09:08:50
SteveStrummerUK
jbow


I didn't care for the dead husband constantly in the picture. IT portrayed her as insane... but perhaps it showed her as able to overcome it. I have no idea if that part was pure fantasy or what.

Julien, she has dementia. I think the film is less about Thatcher specifically, and more to do with how its creators imagined people with dementia might perceive the world. For me, it failed miserably on both counts.
 
She was probably viewed as the ideal candidate to use as the vehicle to illustrate such a concept.
 
 
2013/01/31 11:06:33
jbow
Ahhh, I see. My mom has dementia and has lost her sight. She knows dad, my sister, me, and my neice but she cannot figure out who my kids or grandkids are. Other than that and having to answer the same question over and over, day after day... everything is pretty much normal. Come to think of it the over and over, day after day thing is nothing new.... it is just that now she actually does not know.

Thanks for the answer.

2013/01/31 11:09:46
jamesg1213
jbow


Was that the same song as the FACES Not Gonna work on Maggie's Farm No More? Don't remember the exact title..



Yes, both are covers of the Bob Dylan song.
2013/01/31 19:39:12
craigb
SteveStrummerUK


The film came across to me as little more than a bad parody.

Spitting Image tackled the subject much better, and I'd argue, more poignantly.

Still remember this now, classic...

The Scene: Thatcher and her ministers are sat around a table in a restaurant, she is reading the menu..

Waitress (to Maggie, seated at the head of the table): Are you ready to order sir?

Thatcher: Yes, I will have a steak.
 
Waitress: How do you like it?

Thatcher: Oh.... raw please.
 
Waitress: And what about the vegetables?

Thatcher: Oh.... they'll have the same as me.
 


My chortle comes from the waitress addressing Maggie as "sir."
2013/02/01 03:27:44
SteveStrummerUK
craigb


SteveStrummerUK


The film came across to me as little more than a bad parody.

Spitting Image tackled the subject much better, and I'd argue, more poignantly.

Still remember this now, classic...

The Scene: Thatcher and her ministers are sat around a table in a restaurant, she is reading the menu..

Waitress (to Maggie, seated at the head of the table): Are you ready to order sir?

Thatcher: Yes, I will have a steak.
 
Waitress: How do you like it?

Thatcher: Oh.... raw please.
 
Waitress: And what about the vegetables?

Thatcher: Oh.... they'll have the same as me.
 


My chortle comes from the waitress addressing Maggie as "sir."

 
Craig, the original sketch is HERE, about 20 seconds in.
 
 
2013/02/01 06:31:57
ProjectM
Hmmm... interesting thread. I was too young to actually notice any world politics when she was the PM (I wasn't even born when she was elected PM). I think I will watch it.
2013/02/01 10:47:31
synkrotron
Bristol_Jonesey


jamesg1213


I can't speak for the movie, because I couldn't bear more 10 minutes of it.

As far as Thatcher goes, in my opinion (and I'm not alone), she was single-handedly responsible for the dismantling of the working class in Britain, replacing, for example, matrons and ward sisters in the NHS with 'managers'. With her 'there is no such thing as society' mantra, she created a massively misplaced sense of entitlement in the 1980's, leading to over-stretching of personal finances, home repossession, bankrupty and state dependancy from which, I believe, we have never recovered.

We now have 3rd generation unemployed in the UK.whole families in which no-one has ever worked, and will never work. I blame her.


^^^^ This!

I also believe she was personally responsible for the horrendous cover up over the Hillsborough disaster, and hopefully with the new evidence unearthed and a new inquest/inquiry, the truth will come out before she pops her clogs

Not to mention screwing up pensions.


And Council Houses are pretty much a thing of the past, being replaced with over greedy "housing associations." In my opinion, of course.
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