Rain
Assuming that the person on the other end is objective and impartial and does not misconstrue what you say because of their personal bias, that is. But that never happens.
 
This ^

Just a few years ago this forum was jumping. More members, reflected a variety of opinions and although volatile at times, this forum was vibrant and in my opinion a better forum.

If we have to filter and edit everything we write (because of that one person who might be offended) this will be a ghost town.

Is there a joke that won't be offensive to someone?

How can you say anything of consequence without the possibility of offending someone?

No matter the good intentions of the eventual forum member mods this is going to be divisive.

The less people policing the forums the better.
 
Edit:
Wow, I just noticed my output level.  can it get any lower?  Please take that into account when reading my post.
 
By the way, I think Karyn would be an excellent moderator.

tom1
Wow, I just noticed my output level.  can it get any lower?  Please take that into account when reading my post.

 
What?
 
 

tom1
By the way, I think Karyn would be an excellent moderator.

 
Anyone with guns and a cowbell is a natural for the job. 

tom1
Rain
Assuming that the person on the other end is objective and impartial and does not misconstrue what you say because of their personal bias, that is. But that never happens.
 
This ^

Just a few years ago this forum was jumping. More members, reflected a variety of opinions and although volatile at times, this forum was vibrant and in my opinion a better forum.

If we have to filter and edit everything we write (because of that one person who might be offended) this will be a ghost town.

Is there a joke that won't be offensive to someone?

How can you say anything of consequence without the possibility of offending someone?

No matter the good intentions of the eventual forum member mods this is going to be divisive.

The less people policing the forums the better.

These are all excellent points and precisely the questions we are trying to find answers for on the committee.
Whether we'll ever find a joke that is not offensive to anyone is a hard one to call, but we're doing our best to sort everything else to make the forums a better place for everyone.

Please remember though, the new hosts will not be "moderators" in the way other forums have moderators. We're trying to do as little of that as possible. It will be more of a house keeping role.

Most of my jokes are offensive to everybody so I'm screwed...

Personally..I find the forum pretty much the same as it's always been. It's fine by and large. Some of the more argumentative or confrontational members have moved on, and I see hardly any of the protracted quote-fest-point-by-tedious-point arguments that were prevalent a couple of years back.
 
The CH seems to be self-moderating really, sure, there's plenty of nonsense, but if someone is 'offended' by that, I have no ideas for them.
 
I'm pretty sure the regulars here were mainly responsible for ending the recent incessant spam by using the 3-flags rule sensibly.
 
Could someone explain what exactly the problem is that requires a (non) secret committee to make it better?

Karyn

tom1
Rain
Assuming that the person on the other end is objective and impartial and does not misconstrue what you say because of their personal bias, that is. But that never happens.
 
This ^

Just a few years ago this forum was jumping. More members, reflected a variety of opinions and although volatile at times, this forum was vibrant and in my opinion a better forum.

If we have to filter and edit everything we write (because of that one person who might be offended) this will be a ghost town.

Is there a joke that won't be offensive to someone?

How can you say anything of consequence without the possibility of offending someone?

No matter the good intentions of the eventual forum member mods this is going to be divisive.

The less people policing the forums the better.

These are all excellent points and precisely the questions we are trying to find answers for on the committee.
Whether we'll ever find a joke that is not offensive to anyone is a hard one to call, but we're doing our best to sort everything else to make the forums a better place for everyone.

Please remember though, the new hosts will not be "moderators" in the way other forums have moderators. We're trying to do as little of that as possible. It will be more of a house keeping role.

So, reading between the lines here, I'm guessing that the forum host will be expected to form subjective opinions on the words and actions of the rest of us? Even if in practice that means little more than passing such opinions higher up the food chain?
 
May I therefore politely suggest that all forum hosts should now be expected to conduct themselves in an exemplary manner? Indeed, their forum activity should be held to a higher standard than those they sit in judgement over. And if that is the case, then I'd (again politely - have to be careful what I say now, don't I) suggest that, in my honest opinion, one or more of the current appointments make an absolute mockery of this.
 
I'd also wish to formally call for the closing of the ridiculous FSF - it's become an embarrassment to this forum, and the willing participation of forum hosts on it brings their position into disrepute.
 
Furthermore, may I suggest that forum hosts refrain from any form of hypocrisy and double standards, and it goes without saying that all forum hosts should go out of their way to ensure they never fall foul of the Forum Terms Of Service in future (or should I say, some of you should not continue to flagrantly contravene the TOS).
 
And just out of interest, are the forum hosts still allowed to express any opinions about Cakewalk's products and modus operandi in public on these forums? For instance, should you deem X4 to be a waste of money and a useless piece of software, can you say so? Publicly? Or are you expected to smile through gritted teeth and say it's absolutely wonderful? Or just keep quiet? If so, then I reckon that whatever privilege and esteem comes with the job is a high price to pay.
 
Anyway, I'd better call it quits at this point before I say something I'll likely regret.
 
I'll be taking questions at the back afterwards.
 
 

Steve I think "housekeeping" means stuff along the lines of moving posts to the appropriate forum, not policing behavior.

 
I wonder, does your private forum have a FSF?
 
No.... thought not.
 
You're welcome to ours if you want it anytime.
 
In my opinion only, of course.
 
Many thanks for your scrutiny of this post.

Steve, I totally get and agree with what you're saying on all but one point. We are NOT the new forum hosts.

I've said this before in other posts and I'll repeat it again for effect. We are NOT the new forum hosts.


We are a small committee working on new rules and regulations for the new hosts. We are on your side. Just as the forum has a TOS that all users are expected to abide by, the hosts will have their own regulations they must abide by. We are writing those rules.
The new hosts will have specific jobs to do, mostly involving forum housekeeping, they will NOT be reading every word of everyone's posts to check for bad taste.

IF a post is reported for whatever reason it will be handled the way any reported post is currently handled, except by a Host in the first instance and then an Admin if required. But this is NOT the main job of hosts.