OK, I'll hold my hands up, I have definitely been a right tool about this.
 
But can some of you guys hold your hand on your heart and say you're ok with working alongside John?
 
After all some of us have said about the guy?
 
Have you no pride?
 
No ironic sense of the underlying hypocrisy of this.
 
Can a leopard change its spots.
 
Can I ever get over myself?
 
Won't anyone think of the children?
 
To find out the answers to these questions, and more...... tune in for next week's riveting episode of I love Lucy John
 
 
 
Seriously, he might be a great bloke. I don't know him as well as you all probably do by now, but I can only speak as I find. Can you honestly look at yourselves in the mirror without remembering how he's treated some of you? And what about his mega-rag on all of us in the CH? And this guy is on a committee helping to decide how best to run these forums? With you?
 
Sorry guys, but this is so wrong. Fair enough, if you're getting paid to do this that's cool - he who pays the piper and all that - but if it's purely voluntary, I honestly thought I knew some of you better.
 
But then again, who am I to talk. I'll admit I've definitely been a bit harsh too, especially to Ed. He didn't deserve all the crap I've been flinging at him. Even though I'm still convinced some of what I said was valid. But not nice. Sorry Ed.
 
 
 
 

 

dubdisciple
This has gotten ridiculous rather fast. People are arguing over what "might" happen and percieved self-fulfilling prophecies when nothing has actually occured so far except some names have an extra title. I'm not sure if the sky is falling crowd is better or worse than the defense crowd. Yes, Cake made a mistake displaying a not fully formed system that lacked in details. In the big picture though, it is not a big deal. It's not like they were hoarding a cure for cancer and selected only a few to have it.

Great points Dub.
 
And you're absolutely right of course - we really should wait and see how all this pans out before getting too critical.
 
Cakewalk must know what they're doing, and they must know their regular forum members well enough to know who's up to the job and who isn't.
 
I'll try and keep my big gob shut until everything's up and running.
 
 

I must have missed whatever John did. Most of the threads I have seen him participate in, he has come off as knowledgeable and reasonable. I certainly could nitpick almost any selection if I were inclined, but I think it's pointless without knowing exactly what their function and limits are. If they are mostly spam fighters then does it really matter who does it? I think the criteria for moving topics and fighting spam is mostly being here enough to be effective. Unless one thinks John (or any other person seen as having personaln issues with other members) is going to have the power and act on such over the top behavior like deleting all FSF stuff as spam, this is a lot of adieu about nothing so far. Getting worked up over hypothetical speculation is just not healthy. One of the reasons I was not sure Steve was being serious is because he seems more closely associated with the majority of those selected than most. I'm more outside of the inner circle than he and I'm not losing any sleep over this.

Steve..wrote my last post before reading your last post. I suppose we will all see. In the meantime let's go make music!

dubdisciple
This has gotten ridiculous rather fast. People are arguing over what "might" happen and percieved self-fulfilling prophecies...

Isn't that how most wars start ?
 
Anyway, at what point does having an opinion on any given subject become arguing ? Why can somebody not object to the idea of something ? Am I arguing now or just asking questions ? 
 
 
Apart from anything else, it's at least a welcome change of subject from freaking Am and becan all the time.

For me it's the domino theory.

If we allow forum hosts it won't be long til the communists take over.

Seriously, I think we're all over-reacting a smidgen. With so many things to worry about in today's world what direction this forum goes is certainly not one of them.

and as Paulo just stated I too see this as a discussion. I don't sense any hostility. (maybe just a smidgen)
 
 

SteveStrummerUK
 But can some of you guys hold your hand on your heart and say you're ok with working alongside John?

Yes I absolutley 100% can.

To be honest targetting individuals puts a nasty taste in my mouth and it is wrong. It invites flaming and that is no good.

If we are now going to start pointing at individuals then please put me down as the worst of them. I hereby declaire CakeAlexS is an ashole. Does that help? It's time to put past behind. PLEASE! :)

Yes I was discussing. Why would someone take it any other way? Did they over react?

Been around here a long time. I've seen some things go on here that I didn't agree with.

Take John: Good guy always helpful, but has a tendency to come off as holier than thou.

Alex: If a thread doesn't stay in topic he's quick to let you know. I believe he has an agenda he wants to carry out on how these forums should go.

Again let me state before anyone takes it wrong, I think both these guys are beneficial to the forum. And I think they are generally good guys. But to be on a committee deciding how this place is run?

I with Steve on this: no one sees anything wrong with this?

As for over reacting I stated from the very beginning that I had a bad "feeling" about this. When I saw the "forum moderator" labels, I just felt, "yep this is how I thought it would go." So no I don't see anyone over reacting. Just people stating their views. And they are not liking how it is developing.

And I will state that CW has the right to do what they want. It's their place, not ours.

SteveStrummerUK
Even though I'm still convinced some of what I said was valid. But not nice. Sorry Ed.

No need to be sorry if you believe(d) what you said mate.
 
Still lurves me Straummy just as he is.

CakeAlexS

If we are now going to start pointing at individuals then please put me down as the worst of them. I hereby declaire CakeAlexS is an ashole.

No your not Alex. No need to do this.

I'll now keep my trap shut.

See how this works?