• Coffee House
  • Something Mr. McQ brought up in another thread ... (p.3)
2013/01/18 15:21:06
noldar12
Bub, as one who can have a very "off-beat" sense of humor at times, your comments don't bother me at all.

I think, for those of us who do have concerns, most types of humor are fine.  The thing that is troubling in general is that what one might find funny and appropriate in one's private circle of friends, others in a public forum may find totally out-of-bounds.  The sausage example (which at this point I don't recall seeing) would make for "exhibit A".

And, no, I am not thinking of the politically correct type of "offense," where if you say one wrong word, the "offended" person goes off.  Though the word is way out of favor now, perhaps the best word that describes what is needed is "decency".

To close with a personal story: I have a few cousins who have a rather raunchy sense of humor (one I don't share).  The extended family gets together every couple of years for a family reunion.  Many of the cousins don't care for that raunchy sense of humor and during the reunions the cousins with the raunchy sense of humor are very respectful and careful around those who they know don't share their outlook.  As a result, the reunions have always been a great success.

It is that type of concern that I think Mike and Beagle are raising, and one that I also share.
2013/01/18 15:24:57
drewfx1
Jonbouy


Bub


If someone PM'd you and didn't address it with the person that actually offended them, then it's their own fault. We all have a right to be here, and if we are offended by something, we should address it with the person offending them. Not go crying to someone else and let it fester.

This has not been the same place for quite some time now. I keep coming here hoping it will get back to what it was, but I think it's too late. It's pretty clear it's not going to be the same place it was.

Gotta go stare out the window until the wife gets home. Makes for long days I tells ya.
I'm so with you here Bub, wasn't it a previous intervention of the moral police that killed off all the free flowing wit and repartee that used to constantly buzz around this place?
No.

It was people ridiculously overreacting to them.
2013/01/18 15:29:07
Jonbouy
noldar12


It is that type of concern that I think Mike and Beagle are raising, and one that I also share.
I think also Bub was asking for specifics, some of us don't engage in the lewd kind of humour and it is damaging to say that some are causing offence here without being specific.
 
I mean we could all be causing offence but refraining from a particular kind of humour and think we are falling under a moral banner that doesn't actually apply.
 
If you have issue with what someone has posted then take it up with them to avoid the confusing moral guidelines that sometimes get thrown over the forum like a blanket.
 
If you don't like to confront somebody then report the offending post.
 
Beagle has just used his conscience to state that he feels like he's fallen below his own standards, that should be example enough to anyone to pick up and run with.

2013/01/18 15:33:55
Beagle
drewfx1


Jonbouy


Bub


If someone PM'd you and didn't address it with the person that actually offended them, then it's their own fault. We all have a right to be here, and if we are offended by something, we should address it with the person offending them. Not go crying to someone else and let it fester.

This has not been the same place for quite some time now. I keep coming here hoping it will get back to what it was, but I think it's too late. It's pretty clear it's not going to be the same place it was.

Gotta go stare out the window until the wife gets home. Makes for long days I tells ya.
I'm so with you here Bub, wasn't it a previous intervention of the moral police that killed off all the free flowing wit and repartee that used to constantly buzz around this place?
No.

It was people ridiculously overreacting to them.

My rememberance wasn't of of "moral police" in the sense of people being offended with threads being questioned.  it was simply what some "didn't like"
 
objections were (not an exhaustive list): 
too many "ya" and +1 responses
too many mash up threads
too many threads without a "real" subject (according to the one complaining)
too much "baffoonery"
 
there were many other complaints.  but the complaints were not based on anything "moral" - it was based on a perceived problem with the direction of the forum from a few individuals.  I could name them, but I have no wish to invoke that incantation.
 
those who would complain about the subjects I've listed above are not complaining about the morality of the forum.  they were just complaining that it wasn't what they wanted.
2013/01/18 15:35:18
Beepster
I don't post down here much anymore for fear of offending people as I seem to have in the past even though I try to be on my best behavior on this site. I've always been a bit of a salty dog IRL.

Just wanted ya'll coffee house folks to know that. It's nothing you did. I like the bulk of folks on here. 

I'll be upstairs talking about inanities and banalities if you need me.

;-) 
2013/01/18 15:36:06
Beagle
thank you JB
2013/01/18 15:37:13
Jonbouy
Beagle


drewfx1


Jonbouy


Bub


If someone PM'd you and didn't address it with the person that actually offended them, then it's their own fault. We all have a right to be here, and if we are offended by something, we should address it with the person offending them. Not go crying to someone else and let it fester.

This has not been the same place for quite some time now. I keep coming here hoping it will get back to what it was, but I think it's too late. It's pretty clear it's not going to be the same place it was.

Gotta go stare out the window until the wife gets home. Makes for long days I tells ya.
I'm so with you here Bub, wasn't it a previous intervention of the moral police that killed off all the free flowing wit and repartee that used to constantly buzz around this place?
No.

It was people ridiculously overreacting to them.

My rememberance wasn't of of "moral police" in the sense of people being offended with threads being questioned.  it was simply what some "didn't like"
 
objections were (not an exhaustive list): 
too many "ya" and +1 responses
too many mash up threads
too many threads without a "real" subject (according to the one complaining)
too much "baffoonery"
 
there were many other complaints.  but the complaints were not based on anything "moral" - it was based on a perceived problem with the direction of the forum from a few individuals.  I could name them, but I have no wish to invoke that incantation.
 
those who would complain about the subjects I've listed above are not complaining about the morality of the forum.  they were just complaining that it wasn't what they wanted.

I guess I have to recheck my understanding of what 'morality' means then.
 
I'm thinking it is a code of conduct applied to a society in general, characterised by the fact that it changes over time and is never constant .
2013/01/18 15:38:49
Jonbouy
drewfx1


Jonbouy


Bub


If someone PM'd you and didn't address it with the person that actually offended them, then it's their own fault. We all have a right to be here, and if we are offended by something, we should address it with the person offending them. Not go crying to someone else and let it fester.

This has not been the same place for quite some time now. I keep coming here hoping it will get back to what it was, but I think it's too late. It's pretty clear it's not going to be the same place it was.

Gotta go stare out the window until the wife gets home. Makes for long days I tells ya.
I'm so with you here Bub, wasn't it a previous intervention of the moral police that killed off all the free flowing wit and repartee that used to constantly buzz around this place?
No.

It was people ridiculously overreacting to them.

I agree with that.
 
Nonetheless it was a bifurcation point in the forums history.
2013/01/18 15:40:00
daryl1968
the last round of complaining led to the FSF (where dingbats can be dingbats without any intervention.)
then there was "monkeygate" in the song forum.
I've just come to the conclusion that you're all miserable bastards
2013/01/18 15:40:16
daryl1968
oops, forgot to add :)
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