noldar12


daryl1968, I agree that there still are many friendly people in the CH, and it is quite possible that your describing it as fractious is a more accurate.  It really might be that that is what I find troubling.

There is enough of that in the "real" world.

Yes, on further thought, I think you have described the underlying situation well (the personal attack issue I think is still a real one).

Ignoring someone making a reasoned point is a personal attack too?
 
I can't remember when I pooped in your Corn-Flakes but it seems I have somewhere down the line.
 
Too bad.

Jonbouy, to answer your questions:

1) I am not an arbitrator, just expressing my opinion.

2) I would say that you are engaging with me and my comments, and justification is not based on whether you agree with them.

IMO, you certainly do have the right to express yourself as you are doing.  I also agree with you that botlling things up is generally not healthy (as I am one who can be guilty of doing just that).

Where we will likely have to agree to disagree is that when disputes arise, I think that honey works better than vinegar.  Using harsh words can incite the other person to respond with equal or greater harshness, and the conflict often ends up escalating instead of being resolved.

I'm sorry, but I just don't get it.

You use a word that some people find offensive for whatever reason. So just don't use it. Who cares? 

There's lots of other perfectly good words. Many of them aren't offensive. Some of them may even be "colorful" without being particularly offensive.

This is the place you choose to stand up for your manhood or independence or whatever? 

Really? This is that big a deal?

sharke

mike_mccue


You can see how popular it makes me here in this instance.


Care to try it some day and see how much gaining you do?



I think your thesis is off the mark.

And you inability to use logic is alarming because all in all you seem like a very smart or at least very aware guy.


"he was one of the ones who agreed that it was offensive, yet I notice he made liberal use of the word"

You can't draw a conclusion based on your latest example... that's a fallacy known as denying the antecedent... and probably a few others as well.



Good luck.





The forum will be what it will be.

:-)

all the best,
mike

1) Your original point was not that you are offended by it, but that others might be offended by it. 
2) Even it is was that you were offended by it, your motive could still be a feeling of moral superiority, or the demonization of someone else
3) It has nothing to do with denying the antecedant. I simply made the point that Beagle is one of the ones calling for a more respectable "tone" on the forum, and yet he saw nothing wrong with using a sexual curse word in another thread. It is what it is. 

I don't specifically remember saying there nothing wrong with that term.  are you implying that I approved of it becuase I didn't say anything about it?  if so, please do not equate my silence with approval.
 
I am pretty sure I've not used the word in question myself, but if I have said something which showed I was "playing along" with the "joke" then I will accept that I might have done that.  however, I did say earlier in this thread that I am convicted by this discussion that I have lowered my standards and that I need to re-evaluate.  so if I have "approved" of the term you are describing I agree that I should not be and am trying to do better by myself in the future.

Did anyone notice I didn't start this thread?




I just hope someone does before the lynch mob finishes with the rumureulogy.




Good times.

jamesg1213


If it comes down to a choice between reading something which may or may not offend a carefully, un-named someone who may or may not have stopped posting here because they may or may not have PM-d someone, and a boatload of transparently self-serving, passive aggressive, nauseous, holier-than-thou rhetoric...I'll go with the penis shaped sausages.

I blame you for having to clean my screen
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Can't we have a decent mac vs. pc thread?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Always fun to read
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

alexoosthoek

jamesg1213


If it comes down to a choice between reading something which may or may not offend a carefully, un-named someone who may or may not have stopped posting here because they may or may not have PM-d someone, and a boatload of transparently self-serving, passive aggressive, nauseous, holier-than-thou rhetoric...I'll go with the penis shaped sausages.

I blame you for having to clean my screen
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Can't we have a decent mac vs. pc thread?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Always fun to read
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Sending a box of man-size tissues Alex, sorry. You can pick 'em up at Port Zeland. 

mike_mccue


Did anyone notice I didn't start this thread?




I just hope someone does before the lynch mob finishes with the rumureulogy.




Good times.

Lynch mob?
 
I always call your crap out totally independent of anyone elses views.
 
No you didn't start it but it seems to have been prompted by your input, being as you are actually named in the title, a typically irresponsible retort from McQ.
 
"It's never me it's always someone else".
 
Always electing to be coming from a superior stand point than the community you claim to be a part of doesn't wash with me, I don't know about anyone else. 

noldar12


Jonbouy, to answer your questions:

1) I am not an arbitrator, just expressing my opinion.

2) I would say that you are engaging with me and my comments, and justification is not based on whether you agree with them.

IMO, you certainly do have the right to express yourself as you are doing.  I also agree with you that botlling things up is generally not healthy (as I am one who can be guilty of doing just that).

Where we will likely have to agree to disagree is that when disputes arise, I think that honey works better than vinegar.  Using harsh words can incite the other person to respond with equal or greater harshness, and the conflict often ends up escalating instead of being resolved.

Thank you for at least not pretending, not to understand what I was talking about.
 

You can never seem to figure out when I'm not joking.







So why should I expect you to figure out when I am?




I'm not giving up hope.




yet.


bestish,
mike



ps :-)