SteveStrummerUK


Playing bass guitar is a lot like making love to a beautiful woman....

Thank you ... and you can go through the motions and call that "love" --- and be a jerk-ash ... or you can "mean it" ... and appreciate the woman for who she is ... !!! end of story ... and I will email you one other comment!
 
Playing any instrument is like that ... but there are too many folks where it is about the notes, not the woman!

Moshkiae


The main issue I have with "popular music", and a lot of the players in it, like here ... is that they demand a type of "industrial" diligence and control, so that it always sounds "familiar" and the "same" as the "original" ... never mind that even the original was an idea by someone else! 

I'm not sure I've noticed anyone 'demanding' anything. It's a case of wanting what sounds 'right' than something that doesn't. Not just in harmonic terms, but also for the 'feel' of the music. Bass is there for a purpose, and not every instrument needs to be playing something that's 'out there' (whatever than means)

The reason 'popular' music is so named is quite simple. It's because people like it. It shouldn't be a term of derision.

Also, I can assure you that Stanley Clarke is not a brilliant bass player by accident..he knows his music theory inside out and backwards. When you know what you're doing, you can start to bend the rules. Trying to do that without any knowledge is akin to nailing jelly to the wall.

jamesg1213

Moshkiae


The main issue I have with "popular music", and a lot of the players in it, like here ... is that they demand a type of "industrial" diligence and control, so that it always sounds "familiar" and the "same" as the "original" ... never mind that even the original was an idea by someone else! 

I'm not sure I've noticed anyone 'demanding' anything. It's a case of wanting what sounds 'right' than something that doesn't. Not just in harmonic terms, but also for the 'feel' of the music. Bass is there for a purpose, and not every instrument needs to be playing something that's 'out there' (whatever than means)

The reason 'popular' music is so named is quite simple. It's because people like it. It shouldn't be a term of derision.

Also, I can assure you that Stanley Clarke is not a brilliant bass player by accident..he knows his music theory inside out and backwards. When you know what you're doing, you can start to bend the rules. Trying to do that without any knowledge is akin to nailing jelly to the wall.

James, I was going to respond to Pedro's post, but then I reread the part about how when he puts his finger in the same spot, the note never sounds the same, and that's what keeps him from even playing the blues. It was then that I realized it was going to be pointless to try and explain anything musical to him.
 
Randy

Also, I can assure you that Stanley Clarke is not a brilliant bass player by accident..he knows his music theory inside out and backwards. When you know what you're doing, you can start to bend the rules. Trying to do that without any knowledge is akin to nailing jelly to the wall.

 
You forgot the last part of the statement ... that you have not studied experimental and avant-garde and other elements in music ... that are not about breaking the rules ... and making you feel out of the loop ... it's just something else that exists, and you are not the person that dictates any reality out there ... and neither am I ... it doesn't matter what it is ... rules are made to be broken ... and having the ability to go to another element is NOT ABOUT THE RULES more often than not!
 
You either feel it ... or you are just doing notes. Stanley KNOWS the difference, and has said so ... or his forays into the inner thing ... were worthless, and he will not state that! You must think that a trip to the innerland is about the rules ... or another set of rules ... you're kidding me, right?

James, I was going to respond to Pedro's post, but then I reread the part about how when he puts his finger in the same spot, the note never sounds the same, and that's what keeps him from even playing the blues. It was then that I realized it was going to be pointless to try and explain anything musical to him.

 
Randi .. stopp being offensive ... it's not the note that is not the same ... it feels different to me! It is the same note, but you're stuck on your idea and you think that everyone else is a fukking moron!

Moshkiae

Also, I can assure you that Stanley Clarke is not a brilliant bass player by accident..he knows his music theory inside out and backwards. When you know what you're doing, you can start to bend the rules. Trying to do that without any knowledge is akin to nailing jelly to the wall.

 
You forgot the last part of the statement ... that you have not studied experimental and avant-garde and other elements in music ... that are not about breaking the rules ... and making you feel out of the loop ... it's just something else that exists, and you are not the person that dictates any reality out there ... and neither am I ... it doesn't matter what it is ... rules are made to be broken ... and having the ability to go to another element is NOT ABOUT THE RULES more often than not!
 
You either feel it ... or you are just doing notes. Stanley KNOWS the difference, and has said so ... or his forays into the inner thing ... were worthless, and he will not state that! You must think that a trip to the innerland is about the rules ... or another set of rules ... you're kidding me, right?

I'm not kidding you Pedro, no. I'm trying to gently explain that all the bands and artists you so admire for their improvisational skills, are able to 'experiment' because they know their theory first. I'm not really interested in trips to the innerland, or Disneyland.

that you have not studied experimental and avant-garde and other elements in music

You have no idea what I have, or haven't 'studied'... I'll assume that means 'listened to' by the way.

The best way to appreciate exactly what the bass adds to a song is to EQ it out.

SteveStrummerUK


The best way to appreciate exactly what the bass adds to a song is to EQ it out.

I always do that with Ed's tracks...

jamesg1213

SteveStrummerUK


The best way to appreciate exactly what the bass adds to a song is to EQ it out.

I always do that with Ed's tracks...

I deliberately left out the word 'permanently'
 
 
 

I repeat.