2013/01/18 11:25:38
digi2ns
Anyone read Craigs article on Chatter?

Good article.

I like the part about using the Y-Splitter to get the guitar to react with the amp while providing an good input into an interface.

Nice read Craig  
2013/01/18 11:31:34
craigb
You're welcome, but I don't remember writing anything...
2013/01/18 11:53:20
digi2ns


Craig Anderton
2013/01/18 12:17:06
bapu
Mooh's brother-in-law is in that mag. Not sure if it's an ad or an article (I don't get the mag or subscribe online).

Salbo Guitars.
2013/01/18 12:17:13
The Maillard Reaction
digi2ns


Anyone read Craigs article on Chatter?

Good article.

I like the part about using the Y-Splitter to get the guitar to react with the amp while providing an good input into an interface.

Nice read Craig  






I'd be curious to read the article. Is the split before the first gain stage?

My first thought is using Y-cord creates a parallel circuit which means you only get 1/2 of what ever you think you are getting.


Using a Y chord to enjoy playing into the impedance and reactance of the first stage of the actual amp will be somewhat nullified by the fact that the Y cord will only get you 1/2 way there and you also lose 1/2 of what ever impedance and reactance that is presented by direct connection by using the Ycord to get 1/2 of the guitar?



When I record direct and off the speaker simultaneously I split the signal after the first gain stage. The guitar, itself, reacts to the impedance and reactance of the first stage and then I split it and as a player I react to the sound of my speaker amp and cab while capturing a pretty good facsimile of the dry signal that is driving that tone.

If you just use a Y cord before the first gain stage the inputs of the two devices at the end of the split will actually interact and present swinging values that are not indicative of one single input... so it's not like plugging half into a guitar amp makes the guitar think it's plugged in to something that behaves just like the impedance and reactance of a guitar amp... it's just plugged in to something new and different. 





Was the article advocating splitting the raw guitar signal or a signal that has been actively buffered by a gain stage?



Was the article speaking about the phenomena of electronic reactance and it's effect on frequency response and tone? 

Or was it speaking about how listening to a real life guitar speaker can effect a guitar players approach to touch and feel? 



best regards,
mike
2013/01/18 12:43:48
craigb
I use a preamp (A VHT Valvulator GP3) as my initial point of entry for my guitar cable since it has a buffer, a loop for pedals and multiple outputs to handle the splitting.  I also use a patchbay for any further splitting (like sending signal to a tuner) and another preamp (a Mesa Boogie Rectifier Recording Preamp) has multiple outputs for both live use and recording.  This gets around any signal degradation issues and allows me to really hear just how bad I currently suck at guitar.  LOL
2013/01/18 14:36:28
digi2ns
Ill have to re-read where exactly he put it Mike

I tried to get to it on-line but Im not an online subscriber, just the hard copies.


2013/01/18 14:37:40
digi2ns
I wonder if scanning the page and posting it is a copywrite no no?  
2013/01/18 15:26:20
The Maillard Reaction
I'll read it at the store ;-)


Here's how I do it:















best regards,
mike
2013/01/18 16:29:37
digi2ns
OK I like your Opt 1 LOL

I believe his article is trying to get across how to capture a good clean signal for Amp Sims while getting the guitar to interact nicely with the amp/cabinet.

Heres what he wrote
"An interfaces high impedance input doesnt interact with a guitar the way most amps do. MOTUs low cost ZBox accessory sits between your guitar and interface, and emulates an amp input."..."It never hurts and often helps give a much better feel. Another option is to split your guitar output with a Y-cord. Send one split to a guitar amp, and the other to the interface. The Guitar will interact with the amp, and the interfaces high input impedance will capture the resulting sonic change"

Im trying not to take it out of context cause he is using a 7 step process-to provide a good signal for an amp sim (Im assuming)
Guitar,
Transient Control,
Interface Input,
De-esser,
EQ cuts,
EQ Notching,
Introducing Air

I have to read, reread and study time and time again cause my memory dumps as soon as I leave something or go to sleep  
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