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2013/01/16 13:04:23
bapu
Mooch4056


So Karyn ......what is it exactly that you are saying?

I think she's saying "use it or don't" it probably will never matter anyway. It comes down to "if you like it".


I sort of did both sides of what Karyn is saying. I did a mix of a song using Slate's VCC on every channel and bus. I liked it. Then I went to an existing mix and added VCC to every channel and bus. It did not really change the "shound" of that other song. I believe it was because I did not EQ or FX to the VCC.


2013/01/16 14:04:27
Mooch4056
bapu


Mooch4056


So Karyn ......what is it exactly that you are saying?

I think she's saying "use it or don't" it probably will never matter anyway. It comes down to "if you like it".


I sort of did both sides of what Karyn is saying. I did a mix of a song using Slate's VCC on every channel and bus. I liked it. Then I went to an existing mix and added VCC to every channel and bus. It did not really change the "shound" of that other song. I believe it was because I did not EQ or FX to the VCC.

I wasn't talk to you. I was talking to Karyn. Pfffft 




Your ignored 
2013/01/16 14:10:30
bapu
Mooch4056

Your ignored 

Is that all it took? I shudda done this years ago.
2013/01/16 14:12:37
Mooch4056
bapu


Mooch4056

Your ignored 

Is that all it took? I shudda done this years ago.

No .... I should have done this yesterday 
2013/01/16 14:13:50
bapu
Mooch4056


bapu


Mooch4056

Your ignored 

Is that all it took? I shudda done this years ago.

No .... I should have done this yesterday 

Hmmmmmm. I thought I was ignored.
2013/01/16 15:10:13
craigb
Karyn



In the digital world 1 + 1 always equals exactly 2 
Unless you have X1 before the patches, ya?

2013/01/16 15:51:34
Mooch4056
bapu


Mooch4056


bapu


Mooch4056

Your ignored 

Is that all it took? I shudda done this years ago.

No .... I should have done this yesterday 

Hmmmmmm. I thought I was ignored.

I am ignore you 
2013/01/16 15:52:35
drewfx1
Bub

This was very interesting to me (from Craig's video) ... 

"It's important to start your mix while the Console Emulators are already in place and do your mix with all of them enabled, adding them after the fact to an existing mix is rarely as effective."


I don't understand why? If you mix your project so it sounds good, and then you add the CE, it should add 'something' to the mix, good or bad. Even if it emphasizes the high end, and creates distortion, you should still hear something. Another thing bad about this is, it's kind of odd to have it work this way, especially if you want to go back and add it to an existing project. You'd have to reset the desk and start from scratch. That just doesn't make sense to me.

Bub, the reason why is obvious - because the documentation says that's the way you should use it.

http://www.cakewalk.com/Documentation/default.aspx?Doc=SONAR%20X2&Lang=EN&Req=ProChannel.8.html

Don't confuse yourself by trying to use logic and reasoning when it comes to audio. Or get bogged down in technical details about what's actually going on or do blind testing or anything like that.

Instead, just blindly accept what the marketing folks tell you and your entire world will be beautiful and happy and wonderful and joyous and you can post upstairs about how wonderful everything is!

You will automatically hear the stuff they tell you about:

A wider sound stage.
Increased sense of sense [sic] of spatial cohesion.*
More depth and definition.
A bit more warmth and aggression.
Easier to balance levels across tracks.

*This is my favorite, because, before X2, my spatials just weren't cohesed (even when they were warmly and aggressively deep and defined). 

I'm not sure about the wider sound stage though, because I don't have a ruler handy in my studio.
2013/01/16 16:00:23
The Maillard Reaction
So you really like the sound of it?  :-) 
2013/01/16 16:04:26
Mooch4056
bapu


Mooch4056


bapu


Mooch4056

Your ignored 

Is that all it took? I shudda done this years ago.

No .... I should have done this yesterday 

Hmmmmmm. I thought I was ignored.

Btw .... I am still ignoring you 




It's a trick I learned from the United States government.  Say that your doing one thing but then do the opposite. Works for them ....and so far....been working for me 
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