how internet radio works?
 
I'd sure enjoy a Cakewalk radio program. It would be cool
to have some folks here doing shows - delivering songs and info
about them and shows about X2 and others...live question and answers thing..members only.
 
I think I'd get more from that...I tire quickly of clicking around.

Have a look here Michael;

http://electronics.howstu...com/internet-radio.htm

I remember SMB had a spot on Mixposure's radio show a few years back, it was a lot of fun. We pre-recorded a 15 minute piece with a few tracks and us talking about how they came about.

There was a chat-room you could log into and talk to other listeners in real-time, which was quite cool.

I don't know if things have improved since then, but the quality was pretty bad, very compressed and 'pumping'.

I use to participate at Mix radio and probably most of the material I have there
was played. Asked to do a radio spot interview but declined.

This morning a became curious about how it works and thought it would be very cool
to hear about an hour of quality progam about Cakeworld on the weekend.

Thanks for the link, I'll check it out.

I remember now..you were 'Soundtrapper' there, right?

And still via link but years since I posted there.

James I think the "podcasts" I read about at you link is
really what I envisioned. MUCH cheaper too loll.

Maybe we can get Korg and Propellerheads to sponsor the show?


I wonder how much bapsi will charge for access to the CHB catalog?






Spacey, 
 One specific challenge to internet radio is keeping track of who is listening. There is statutory play rate of apprx. $0.01 per listener per stream that is the royalty pay out for the song writer or owner of the asset.
 So, if you have 1000 listeners listening to a 30 minute show with 10 songs the royalty fees are:

1000 x 10 x $0.01 = $100.00


So, that's easy... you'll want to get at least $100.00 in sponsorship support... but that's before you cover the cost of distributing the payments and all that paper work... so now you probably want at $500.00 in sponsorship.

Now we can figure out how to pay for rental of a streaming server and the basic costs of producing a show.

Stuff like that.

Of course, one very real problem is that there is no actual way to know how many streams you really should be paying for... so you'll never know if your expenditures are efficient or sufficient.


It doesn't take too long to begin to understand why internet radio is just a bigger playlist in rotation rather than an endless succession of newness. Administration costs are lower when you just repeat the same stuff over and over again and avoid adding new stuff that needs new admin and book keeping support.

It doesn't take to long to begin to understand why cable TV looks the way it does. There is a direct relationship between the effort that can be devoted to developing content, the size of the viewing audience, and the levels of sponsorship that can be utilized.





I do think it would be cool to see the incredible variety of Cakewalk produced music that is out there.

Right this moment, it seems like one practical option is for someone to produce play lists of Soundcloud uploads that are all thematically oriented to Cakewalk productions.

It could even include interviews and such if stuff like that was uploaded to Soundcloud.




I'm gonna start pitching Ed K for an exclusive interview!!!


all the best,
mike

BTW, podcasts are digital downloads.

So the statutory rate for that is apprx $0.10 per song in the package...so the price per went up... but it may be easier to keep track of how many downloads there are so you can hope that every song you pay to deliver  actually gets listened to and enjoyed.

Remember, these rates are not voluntary and it doesn't matter if you give the music away for no profit... if you are handing out some one else's songs for download than you owe them approx $0.10 per incident.

There is a grey area where you can have a self distruct type of download with limited playbacks... that's still a grey area for royalty fees. The public doesn't seem to enjoy the experience any more than than the asset holders and so movement towards a conventional payment for this has been sluggish. 





I the meantime, as has been suggested in a previous post, bands are at liberty to post there own material and create podcasts and such. Many bands are doing this sort of thing.

Pomplamoose is one of my favorite examples of people doing these sorts of packages that combine content with promotion.



best regards,
mike

I appreciate the info Mike. Thank you.

I hear Bapu is all over the radio, but it's Am only.

Cool songs Michael!  I saw the link and have been working my way through your playlist - nice variety.  Liked the sax on Good Day and the guitar tone on Running Man (which is where I've gotten to so far).

You welcome spacey.

I did make a mistake about the podcasts.

I forgot to mention that we have a statutory right to stream music content as long as we pay the fees. That's a recent law and it is the underlying premise behind the operation of websites such as Pandora, Soundcloud, Grooveshark etc.

The record companies can't stop them... they can only prosecute for non or insufficient payments.


With podcast downloads you have no right to use anyone's content with out express permission... so the rate of approx $0.10 goes to the composer or holder of the publishing asset and there is still a fee that needs to be negotiated for the actual use of the recording. The $0.99 downloadable mp3s split 10c for the songwriter and the rest for the owner of the recording.

You can see it can get complicated fast.



I imagine a podcast could include a snippets of a song and claim fair use.



Anyways, I like the Soundcloud playlist idea.

Let Soundcloud steal the money owed for the streams and simply provide playlists of uploaded content that is in effect a radio show. Develop some interviews or behinds the scenes content to upload to Soundcloud so as to incorporate that into "shows". 

You could even upload segues and bumps and just weave them into the list... and in effect produce a complete show on the down low.




Heck, I'm gonna try to sell Ed K an advert for his software dev business.




all the best,
mike