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  • Upcoming PC Upgrade - In Need Of Suggestions. (p.2)
2013/02/10 14:40:00
zoobooboozoo
A real dilemma is whether to go amd or intel, most ppl suggested i5, but there's some suggesting amd. I think that's the no1 question for me to solve... I think a good L3 Cache is important for my kind of uses and I didn't see it in the specs...
2013/02/11 12:21:08
chuckebaby
Amd is running top notch here man.i have a 6 core phenom black edition.
that computer runs smoother than my I7 at times.

its the cost,im not afraid to spend money,but im also not afraid to save money.
check out the you tube video,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFZ7ZrsTl3g
if your interested in my book ,(the one in the video) let me know.
you can download a free copy
2013/02/11 14:18:03
zoobooboozoo
I've been told AMD consume more power and create more heat and because of fan works that needs to deal with - they are more noisy. is that right?
2013/02/11 14:51:50
slartabartfast
I just put together a new system using:

Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD3H motherboard
Intel Core i7 3770K CPU
GSkill F3-1866C10D-16GAB memory (2 x 8 GB)

So far no problems running everything at stock speed and using the on chip video, but I have not extensively tested it yet or fooled with OC.
2013/02/11 17:32:08
chuckebaby
zoobooboozoo


I've been told AMD consume more power and create more heat and because of fan works that needs to deal with - they are more noisy. is that right?

no.
but when bulding a daw you start by choosing an insulated case.
you primary concern a power supply with a noisy fan.
this vents out and will make some noise.
 
i use a few different daws,but my daw of choice is an AMD 6 core with 8 gigs of ram.
the i7 loads things a little quicker,but the AMD is solid,no hardware conflicts,nothing.
 
dont be fooled,AMD isnt what it used to be.
they're great quality now,and should be for 150.00 processor(an i7 depending on the kind,250.00+)
2013/02/11 18:14:28
LaryMary
Hi Chuck, I have viewed your videos too and I am really keen to have a go at this. From what you say, the AMD/Intel discussion is quite academic when it comes to running X2 etc. I sure like the idea of building a PC for under $400. I may have to pay a bit more here in the UK but as I've been planning on spending upwards of £1000, this is too tempting to resist. I am sure interested in your book too. Gary
2013/02/11 21:22:18
bent4life
Charlie (chuckebaby) was kind enough to forward me a copy of his book mentioned above - it's free. I have no connection to Charlie, financial or otherwise, other than being a fellow forum member with mutual interests. 

Here's a quick review:
 
Simply put, as a newbie computer builder, I wish I had seen it before I began my first build recently. My computer works (still), but all the images, including videos, that are embedded in the book - which comes in Flipbook form but can be opened as a PDF - would have helped me figure things out faster. He also includes the gentle warning to "use your head" and "use common sense." Wise words. 

The book's full of information for a basic build - perfect for newbies. He goes through two scenarios - one where he strips down a Dell Dimension 2400 and builds from case to finish, the other a brand new build (using an AMD processor, not Intel). In the second scenario he walks you through the process from buying the parts, work area setup, installing everything, and more. Nothing mystifying about it; all straight talk. Good stuff.  

The only quibble I've got is that there are a couple of typos (I'm an editor and I suffer from an incurable spelling disease ). A glossary might be useful. But these are such minor issues compared to the wealth of information offered.  

Highly recommended. 

Ben


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Win 7 Pro; i7 3770k; 16 GB RAM; Sonar Producer X2a; Roland Quad Capture

2013/02/12 01:11:36
zoobooboozoo
@chuckebaby: I'd love to get the book Chuck. Another question: isn't the fact that AMD has no L3 cache a problem? I know that DAWs benefit greatly from the L3 Cache
2013/02/12 06:59:36
LaryMary
A few typos I can live with - as well as dodgy spelling, 'there' when they mean 'their', but this book sounds just the ticket.
2013/02/12 10:59:36
LaryMary
Okay, I have researched this here in the UK and I have found I can get everything I need from Amazon.

When I selected the AMD Phenom II X4 965 CPU (£75.20 = $117.19) I was offered a bundle with an Asus M5A78L-M/USB3 Motherboard (£51.09 = $79.62) (Socket AM3+, Up to 16GB DDR3, USB 3.0, uATX) and 8Gb Corsair Ram (£44.52 = $69.38) (Total £170.81 = $266.19) Any comments about this mobo?


In addition I have added an insulated CiT Vantage Midi Mesh Gaming Case with HD Audio, 4 Fans, Card Reader ( £37.02 = $57.69) and an Alpine 650W Quiet Silent PC Power Supply PSU 120mm Fan (£18.60 = $28.99)


As this is a new build I have added the following:
LG GH24NS90.AUAA50B 24x SATA Bare Internal DVD Rewriter - Black (£13.47 = $20.99) 
Seagate 1TB 3.5 inch 7200RPM 64MB Cache SATA3 Hard Drive (£50 = $77.92)
Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5 inch SATA Solid State Drive (£74.99 = $116.86)
Akasa 2.5/3.5 inch to 5.25 inch Mounting Adapter (£7.14 = $11.13)
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium with Service Pack 1, 64-bit, English, 1 Pack, DSP OEI (PC) (system builders only) (£69.99 = $109.07)

Total for this lot runs at £442.02 in the UK, which converts to approx $688.84 US.
It would seem that we pay a bit more for some items here in the UK but I have added several essential 'extras'.
Any thoughts/comments?



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