I dig it bapu....all is well.....except for my pea brain having no surplus of neurons to learn another program.
This BIAB muther is deep like the Aleution Trench.

Carry on....

Reece....ya knows I luv ya...

Studio musicians and BIAB in the same sentence is ... it just doesn't work LOL.

I thought it was funny as hell and not laughing at you. Should we have been in the same
room...it would have been a fun time.

Here is my take on it- and I've already said I just don't care what others make their music with.

For those that don't know...I don't record live with others anymore. Everything I record is either a collab or alone.
I can pick on a guitar or bass and not get beat up to bad.

When I opened it up I immediately knew I pissed off that money.
The reasons are I didn't like nor want what it offered.
Well, what does it offer?

It could be a learning tool. I don't need a learning tool. I learn all by myself.
It could kinda make sounds of other instruments.  I can do that and much better via midi guitar or step recording with a midi keyboard. (which turned out to dangerous and a waste of time...keyboard that is)
If one compares the results between those means....no contest .
It can generate chord progressions and songs. That is the last thing in the world I need or want. I'll write my own.
It will supply backup and/or inspiration to play. I can make better backup by other means and I don't need inspiration. I've loved making
music for 50 years.

Personally, and I mean no offense to any person...I could never use it. It will never generate, backup, or inspire me to do a thing with
making music. I'm glad it's there for folks that do enjoy it.

spacey


Reece....ya knows I luv ya...

Studio musicians and BIAB in the same sentence is ... it just doesn't work LOL.

I thought it was funny as hell and not laughing at you. Should we have been in the same
room...it would have been a fun time.

Here is my take on it- and I've already said I just don't care what others make their music with.

For those that don't know...I don't record live with others anymore. Everything I record is either a collab or alone.
I can pick on a guitar or bass and not get beat up to bad.

When I opened it up I immediately knew I pissed off that money.
The reasons are I didn't like nor want what it offered.
Well, what does it offer?

It could be a learning tool. I don't need a learning tool. I learn all by myself.
It could kinda make sounds of other instruments.  I can do that and much better via midi guitar or step recording with a midi keyboard. (which turned out to dangerous and a waste of time...keyboard that is)
If one compares the results between those means....no contest .
It can generate chord progressions and songs. That is the last thing in the world I need or want. I'll write my own.
It will supply backup and/or inspiration to play. I can make better backup by other means and I don't need inspiration. I've loved making
music for 50 years.

Personally, and I mean no offense to any person...I could never use it. It will never generate, backup, or inspire me to do a thing with
making music. I'm glad it's there for folks that do enjoy it.

So, basically, you're saying you like to think outside the Band In A Box, ya?

Well put spacey.

BIAB sucks the almighty Kumara and maybe in 50 years time it may do a decent approximation of real musicians but I haven't got the time to wait around for it to catch up. Korg KARMA sucks as well.

spacey


Reece....ya knows I luv ya...

Studio musicians and BIAB in the same sentence is ... it just doesn't work LOL.

I thought it was funny as hell and not laughing at you. Should we have been in the same
room...it would have been a fun time.

Here is my take on it- and I've already said I just don't care what others make their music with.

For those that don't know...I don't record live with others anymore. Everything I record is either a collab or alone.
I can pick on a guitar or bass and not get beat up to bad.

When I opened it up I immediately knew I pissed off that money.
The reasons are I didn't like nor want what it offered.
Well, what does it offer?

It could be a learning tool. I don't need a learning tool. I learn all by myself.
It could kinda make sounds of other instruments.  I can do that and much better via midi guitar or step recording with a midi keyboard. (which turned out to dangerous and a waste of time...keyboard that is)
If one compares the results between those means....no contest .
It can generate chord progressions and songs. That is the last thing in the world I need or want. I'll write my own.
It will supply backup and/or inspiration to play. I can make better backup by other means and I don't need inspiration. I've loved making
music for 50 years.

Personally, and I mean no offense to any person...I could never use it. It will never generate, backup, or inspire me to do a thing with
making music. I'm glad it's there for folks that do enjoy it.

Hey my friend, and I hope you know I don't take offence at any of this either! 
 
I understand where you're coming from.  Bub had a similar stance in a recent thread about loops, IIRC.  it's all good and yes, we'd have a good laugh together in the same room!
 
You are MILES above me in talent and skill.  you have more experience at "being a musician" in one of your fingers than I have in my whole body and I envy you that!
 
but that's OK.  we're all different - as long as we can still get along and have a good time enjoying each other then it's ALL GOOD!

I fear that those little guys in the box are far better than I currently am...  *Sigh*

Crucial question: does anyone know of any hit single that has been at least partially created with BIAB elements? 

To be honest I've been thinking about getting it purely for jam track purposes. I'm kinda sick of all the jam tracks on YouTube and I'd quite like to get back into jazz soloing. 

sharke....
 
I've hardly scratched the surface with this BIAB tool.
 
Along with stimulating the musical imagination I plan on using it for jamming with.
Plus, one is able to create one's own jam tracks and bring 'em into Sonar/X2.
 
Depending on one's goals it's very inexpensive given all that one can do with it.
 
Carry on....
 
 
 

Musical Sci-Fi movie plot:  "neglected BIAB mutates and generates its' own singer/songwriter internally, thereby becoming entirely self sustaining, leading to the starvation and extinction of all human musical talent"..................starring Arnie,Sly, and Dakota Fanning................

sharke


Crucial question: does anyone know of any hit single that has been at least partially created with BIAB elements? 

To be honest I've been thinking about getting it purely for jam track purposes. I'm kinda sick of all the jam tracks on YouTube and I'd quite like to get back into jazz soloing. 

1. nope.... but... the real question to be asking is how many demo's sent in have BB tracks in them?  Or Session Drummer, or other synths.....?  (at least the bass and drums rhythm section)  An artist will ALWAYS record the song with their band members playing.


2. excellent use for BB.... it does jazz pretty good in many styles. Let it generate a song in the jazz style... the possibilities are wide in range. Mute the melody and solo instrument and have fun. 



As a song writing tool, whether it is used to create the follow up tracks or not.... BB is an indespensible and versatile songwriting tool. The songs I write, come from my head and heart. BB simply is used to make them tangible.  It's so easy to try things out to see what works and what doesn't... but in any case...it's me doing the creating, not BB.