Thanks Beepster. I was a bit late to this thread so I only read the OP and did a quick scan through the rest of it.

Today I feel kind of bad for being so heavy handed but I guess I was in a bad mood or something.

However I see only one of two possibilities here... OP is a troll or a troubled young man. If it is the former then he deserves any and all scorn. If it is the latter then someone... ANYONE needs to tell him the truth.

Considering all that's happened in the past few weeks it is imperative for anyone on the edge and/or their relatives to get these folks into a happy, healthy mental state. It should not be left up to internet strangers. Fortunately this forum is a very nurturing and forgiving environment in general. Other places... not so much.

Peace.

I always do the drum track with my teeth when I do music in my head. Maybe I could invent MIDI dentures... hmmmm.
 
 "Now feel free to correct me if I'm wrong on this, but talent is something you're good at."  OK then, NO. Something you're good at is a skill. You get it (to be really good) by many, many hours of practice and work. 10,000 hours is a general rule if you want to be top level. Talent is an innate ability but it means nothing if it is not developed by teaching, practice, and hard work. You see people on the tryouts for any of the Idol shows who think they have talent but have not put in the time and work required to be good.
Some people are an "overnight sensation" after 10 years of hard work in clubs or other venues. There is no free lunch.
 
J

Well if he is for real I don't think blowing sunshine up his arse is going to help him develop. If he is creative in his head he needs to find a way of expressing it. The burden of proof is his. It's a tough world out there for folks with musical ambitions. 24 years old and spending time on the internet being passive aggressive trying to convince folks of their brilliance instead of exploring avenues to get those tunes out. 



Pull it out lad

Indeed. 

You can sum all this up by reading some well known quotes. A good place to start might be talent quotes here:

http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/tag/talent

And then one would like to be successful using their talent (Why Not?) Lets make money from your talent by being successful.

Some success quotes:

http://www.brainyquote.co...ics/topic_success.html

Then we have got some genius quotes:

http://www.phrases.org.uk...cent-perspiration.html

I hope Matt is reading this. Check all those quotes out. They are great and will give you something to think about.

HEY Jack.... assuming you are serious.... bottom line: we are all in this boat together. We all think we have talent, we all think we have to potential to make good music otherwise we wouldn't be here.  
Just start. If you are going to try mostly audio (playing guitar, singing, or any other instrument) buy a standalone recorder like the ZOOM R-8. Then record some stuff and see how it sounds coming INTO your ears as opposed to inside your head.
If you are going to record strings, orchestral instruments, organ/piano, synths etc... get Music Creator or some other cheap DAW maybe R3aper <3=e>), a small keyboard MIDI controller, and the cheapest interface that has latency you can live with (although direct monitoring will solve the latency problem if you are doing one track at a time (I think)).
Jump in there without spending a lot of money and see if this is what you imagine it is. If you like it and what you hear, then invest in good monitors, a full featured DAW, a good interface, and a better controller but be forewarned... it is like buying a boat to fix up, it never ends... at least not until you have a lot of experience and confidence. (A fixer up boat is referred to as a hole in the water you throw money into).
So... just figure out... audio or MIDI. Get into it as cheaply as possible and record your ideas, even if you have to do a rough demo. Then you can pay someone who is proficient with audio or MIDI a nominal fee to rework it into something more than your basic idea. Then you can listen to it OUTSIDE of your head. Believe me, it makes a huge difference.... BUT, there is nothing wrong with you or your dreams. I think you are being a bit unrealistic but that, I think, is only because you don't yet know what all is involved as far as skill and equipment and experience.
Only when you get a rough draft, so to speak, that you can listen to and ask others to listen to it  (be careful who youu ask because some people will not listen to the music, they will hear the lack of polish and say things that might hurt you)... will you have any real idea of what you have and, what you need, the direction you need to take, and how long the road might be.

Now... having said all that. If YOU love your music... that is enough reason, the only reason actually, for you to pursue it but if you do pursue it... pursue it wit a passion knowing that you will endure rejection and other hurtful things because your music will be a part of your heart. Learn to ignore the hurtful and mean spirited comments and embrace the constructive criticism. You'll need a thick skin and a true love for your music AND you will need to put a LOT of time (and a bit of money, it isn't nearly as expensive as it was even 10 years ago) into it.
Research before you buy... read a lot, ask questions and explain that you are trying to learn. People here are helpful and there are other places that are helpful.
I'd recommend you to read the "why do your recordings sound like a55" thread on the Cockos forum. It is good for a beginner and for anyone. I will try to insert a link, if it does not work I will PM it to you. Link: (it is a LONG thread but worth reading, it will save you time and money)
http://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?s=a14e2b4f475adf5a45876330893d7d4a&t=29283&page=18

Julien

Jeff Evans


You can sum all this up by reading some well known quotes. A good place to start might be talent quotes here:

http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/tag/talent

I don't know Jeff. I did very much enjoy some of those.

But I found it a little strange to have Justin Bieber lyrics interspersed with quotes from literary giants and philosophers.

But perhaps that's apropos here. 

Hi Drewfx1. Yes I agree with you too but I think the way to approach quotes like that is that some will really resonate with you and others not so much so I tend to just focus on the ones that do. 

I constantly see incredibly gifted musicians working their butt off. To those people, talent is simply the prerequisite to dedicate their life to perfecting their art and working hard. They still practice and study and do warm ups and look for every opportunity to learn. 

That's what it is - dedication. And it encompasses everything - from their diet to their sleeping hours to exercising and so on. It's a commitment. 

No matter how easily things may seem to come, really talented artists don't just sit on their laurels and enjoy how easy it is to them. The minute you do that, it's no longer art, it becomes a routine, in which you execute a basic set of tasks deploying a well rehearsed set of skills. 

But if your real goal is to be a rock star, then of course, that's plenty enough.

I think I might have an idea about what's going on.

The guy can hear the song in his head, complete with melody, harmonic & rhythmic structure.

What he can't do is relay all of this information at once - he lacks any way of communicating what's going on under his melody, a melody which might not seem so bizarre if we had something - like a chord sequence - with which the melody could relate to or fit with.

Many a classic melody line can easily sound like rambling nonsense without a harmonic backing to lock it into place ,so to speak.