2017/12/06 15:36:48
Cactus Music
Why do people think that W10 updates are going to kill Sonar? Did they ever kill Sonar 6?? People still use that version. 
I don't like W10 so I've gone back to W8.1 Best of both worlds. Not that I think W10 will break Sonar.. I just don't like what it keeps doing to everything else in my system. 
 
There are a few myths flying around that are making some people panic. And the W10 update is one of them,, a myth. 
2017/12/06 15:39:36
bartveld
JohanSebatianGremlin
I do have to say one thing I will miss about Sonar is this forum. I'm poking around a bit on the Cubase forum but so far it seems about as warm and welcoming as a truck stop colonoscopy. Lots of by the book/by the numbers boys in that crowd from what I can tell.



I agree with you there. Posted a question and nobody bothered to answer. Looking around there seemed to be a lot of ado with the 9.5 version, which wasn't too encouraging. Mostly, everyone seems to be in his own bubble there.
2017/12/06 15:42:40
pwalpwal
Cactus Music
Why do people think that W10 updates are going to kill Sonar? Did they ever kill Sonar 6?? People still use that version. 
I don't like W10 so I've gone back to W8.1 Best of both worlds. Not that I think W10 will break Sonar.. I just don't like what it keeps doing to everything else in my system. 
 
There are a few myths flying around that are making some people panic. And the W10 update is one of them,, a myth. 




a win10 update recently killed cakewalk plugins due to a change in thread timing initialization, older versions like s6 don't rely on the more-frequently-changing windows os like the current splat version does... it's not a myth, but it's also not guaranteed to happen either... and if it "keeps doing" stuff to everything else on your system, how long before sonar is also affected?
2017/12/06 15:49:49
stratman70
Well, no towel throwing here. I also use Sound Forge, unsupported for years. Plat does everything I want it to do and more that I don't even use yet.
I will use it until I can't. 
But I do not see that happening. My daw has been W8.1x64 for many years.
It will stay like that. 
2017/12/06 15:53:41
stratman70
dappa1
I dont think they should put anything from Sonar into Studio One. Lets drop tje dead Donkey and move forward. I really like Studio One the way it is and its refreshing to have something new and different.

Why try to get others to feel as negative as you do. Dead Donkey? In your eyes.
Really sad that people cannot just leave others alone and carry on with what they want to do.
Not your first post with like this. OK, we get it, your attitude towards Sonar.
Just many of us do NOT share your views. 
2017/12/06 15:54:59
mkerl
Cactus Music
Why do people think that W10 updates are going to kill Sonar? 




Audio Software (and Video Software as well) needs direct access to hardware, what shouldt be the job of the OS. So, Windows never killed software (and will never do), but sometimes problems occur with drivers or the way, Windows manages hardware access. The same is true for Gaming BTW. For my experience does Microsoft  quickly came up with a workaround whenever something happened like that . Usually you shouldt be safe with your software for a couple of years. 
2017/12/06 15:55:09
chuckebaby
pwalpwal
Cactus Music
Why do people think that W10 updates are going to kill Sonar? Did they ever kill Sonar 6?? People still use that version. 
I don't like W10 so I've gone back to W8.1 Best of both worlds. Not that I think W10 will break Sonar.. I just don't like what it keeps doing to everything else in my system. 
 
There are a few myths flying around that are making some people panic. And the W10 update is one of them,, a myth. 




a win10 update recently killed cakewalk plugins due to a change in thread timing initialization, older versions like s6 don't rely on the more-frequently-changing windows os like the current splat version does... it's not a myth, but it's also not guaranteed to happen either... and if it "keeps doing" stuff to everything else on your system, how long before sonar is also affected?



Some systems
 
LanceRiley
Original Post: It has come to our attention that a recent Windows 10 update has introduced instability in a subset of our plug-ins and may cause SONAR or other Windows DAWs to crash. The problem is related to a change in the timing for thread initialization on Windows, which leads to intermittent crashing on project load, plug-in scanning, or adding these plug-ins to a project. We are able to reproduce the issue and it appears to only affect some systems since it is timing related. We are actively working on a resolution and will release fixes to the affected plugins as soon as possible.
Plug-ins that may be affected:
  • CA-2A
  • Rapture Pro
  • Rapture Session
  • Z3TA+2

2017/12/06 16:00:04
dappa1
Dont get me wrong I have used Sonar for a while so I would be a fool to think it doesnt do the job but reality is they are other DAWs that work better. Sometimes we are blinded cos our choice of DAWS is the best for us not knowing that others may look down on your choice until you make an informed decision to try what they have been trying to show you for a long while. The top DAWs are that for a reason.
2017/12/06 16:08:40
pwalpwal
chuckebaby


I don't remember plug ins being "killed" I could be wrong, do you have a link to that ?



https://steamcommunity.com/games/543510/announcements/detail/282995674662732546 for example
 
yeah, "some systems" and "other daws" but i didn't see any other hoo-har outside the cakewalk world
2017/12/06 16:11:35
mkerl
dappa1

........ but reality is they are other DAWs that work better. 
 
 .... The top DAWs are that for a reason.

 
Depends on your needs . . . 
 
Reason is most often, that they have been in place when it cameto the Audio Revolution in the PC Market. I remember times, when it was a sensation to handle even one small Audiofile on your Pentium PC, armed with floppy Discs and SCSI . . . . Cakewalk was around as well, but it seems, they have not been successful when it comes to marketing. But that's another question, isn't it?
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