Good luck Torie!!!

Will it be on TV on that date? If she is going to be on please make a new post. I don't normally watch The Voice but I will not miss it if she is going to be on. Tell her we are all pulling for her. I know you are a proud dad! Will look at the link.

J

Go TEAM Torie!!! (The Coffee House branch!)

Hey, I just put one of her vids on while I had my back to the screen.
 
She made me turn around at about 1:20!

Jonbouy


Hey, I just put one of her vids on while I had my back to the screen.
 
She made me turn around at about 1:20!

 Yup, She had that effect on me since the first time I recorded her live. 


 She is much better in person as you can imagine.

Alot of her vids are older when she was young but still great for what she was doing.

I believe "The VOICE" requires artists websites of those applying and as simple as Youtube is, they can use it for that purpose as well.

Hi,
 
Good luck ... and yeah ... more good luck.
 
In my theater days at UCSB, at the end of the school year, in the Advanced Acting Course (year round with complete history of theater!), all actors are "invited" to do a "National" somewhere in LA ... and of course, everyone makes you feel like they are a star and everyone is gonna get a scene in front of the pro's!
 
Well, I was almost 10 years older than these folks in the class and I said something like ... I wouldn't do it. Which of course, was not a popular thing to do or say ... but you can't take away someone's chance ... and you help them the best you can ... and I did.
 
Two of the folks came back so downtrodden and frustrated. It was a cattle call, that had over 2,000 people, and they watched about 5 scenes, before theirs and one "judge" was asleep, the other was reading his Penthouse magazine - he never looked up and was paging through something -- thus the joke, and the other ... looking at the ceiling and totally bored! And these were ... "professionals".
 
In the end, no one, and our group was about 50 folks including graduate students, ever got a second call ... but they took each person's money ... $400 ... for the chance.
 
It was the biggest scam I ever saw! And those folks should be nailed to the wall!
 
All in all, and I knew this from my dad's "fame" in the literary world, you can not live strictly hoping that you get a chance ... there are many in there on the same boat, and the difference is, often, a stroke of luck, or a very bad stroke of a trade ... that gets many people taken advantage of.
 
All in all, you have to get better on your own, with your own band, and develop that enough to take it to the next level. Only then, will you be noticed and maybe even appreciated for the work you do.
 
As far as acting, it is best that you find all the local kids going nuts with a camera in their hand and help them get their project done ... it eventually gets seeen somewhere ... but waiting for those "bastards" to pick a child out of nowhere ... is insane ... they want their child for their own money ... and I do not feel comfortable selling my daughter to prostitution, not to mention the amount of insane emotional blitz that eventually gets the kid off the music altogether and decide that going their own way and having a child is more satisfying in life ... than a high doing something that they are very good at ... but will not develop.
 
And there are many of us here ... that went through all that!
 
I'd put up the money and put together an album for my daughter and her friends/band, than I would taking her to meet those folks ... they are some of the ugliest scum you ever met ... and the emotional bs that the kids go through in the stage is often too harsh to overcome and learn from. Those people are not professionals ... they are career closers and killers!
 
Sorry about the soap box ... but I can tell you how many folks from our acting class actually did some work in the business. Only one! There is one other that also did -- and still does -- a lot of live theater in the LA area, and he had spent some time with the Utah Shakespearean Festival to his credit ... but never got another call anywhere else. That's 2 out of 20. All the ladies in the class got hurt the most. Not one of them was anywhere near theater or film a couple of years later.
 
It's a rough business ... but you also have to understand the cattle call mentality ... and I would not put my child through that ... EVER!

You hit the nail on the head-It takes a Stroke of Luck.

Yup, I watch what these shows have turned into and they to really break each person down terribly eventually.

Torie has been playing and singing live in front of public crowds for a long time and I think she is at her end if she dont find bigger and better things to escape the Clubs, Bars, Public Events that she currently does.

I know she will do good if she makes it past the initial cattle call but getting to the finish is truely a stroke of luck.

Either way we will keep our fingers crossed and support her in her passion to go further in the music world, praying she doesnt get torn down and destroyed by it.

Torie has been playing and singing live in front of public crowds for a long time and I think she is at her end if she dont find bigger and better things to escape the Clubs, Bars, Public Events that she currently does.

 
This is, usually, the same spot that most acting folks are at, when they enter an Advanced ActingClass, when you really learn that acting is not just showing off on the stage and you have to know your stuff.
 
At this stage, if it were my daughter, I would go talk to the folks she plays with and get them to get in sync with me and her ... if they say yeah ... I'll put together a CD for them and pay for Bapu, or anyone else, to master the darn thing (for example -- or any other person in this place, I suppose) ... and then release the CD.
 
IF/WHEN all of a sudden you are selling 1,000 CD's and start getting far into the numbers, I guarantee you that you will have folks knocking your door, or hers ... for a signature.
 
All in all, if you can sell enough and develop,, like so many bands did in the 90's, in the end, they do not lose. One of the most inspiring examples was Marillion, that was broke and could not get into the studio in the mid 90's and in their website which they had recently started, they asked for help ... they not only got it, they gave these fans a free concert and what not ... and the rest is history.
 
Marketing is not about "rules" or "ideas" ... it's about what you need to do and how you do it and how you go about it, and how you stand up for yourself ... the rest is easy, though a bit time consuming ... and do make sure you find a good accountant to keep track of every penny!
 
In these days, "waiting" for Godot, is stupid! You have to make your own "Godot" ... and make the call that waiting for the book to tell you what it is and when he will come, is superfluous and a way of letting you know that you are not wanted to get better and different than all the others!
 
And for goodness' sakes ... drop that fame/fortune idea ... she either does it because she is good and loves it ... or call it quit now to make babies!
 
And you might want to read Edgar Froese's thread, in case you think that some folks do not notice people playing ... many do. I don't think that is a stroke of luck anymore than it was ... the girl was strong enough inside to be better and above the others in her attitude towards playing ... and that makes all the difference. It's hard to not notice that shine ... SHINE.

In these days, "waiting" for Godot, is stupid! You have to make your own "Godot" ... and make the call that waiting for the book to tell you what it is and when he will come, is superfluous and a way of letting you know that you are not wanted to get better and different than all the others! And for goodness' sakes ... drop that fame/fortune idea ... she either does it because she is good and loves it ... or call it quit now to make babies! And you might want to read Edgar Froese's thread,

 
I think that this is the first post that has ever caused me to Goggle two different things. The Godot (Googled it) made me immediately think of the Pink Floyd lyrics to TIME. (not that it applies to anyone here especially not to Torrie, that is NOT what I am saying or implying... it may however apply to me in my youth). I am going to check out the Frose thread too, at least enough of it to get the gist. edit> found the thread, read the article/interview... interesting. He sees through different eyes. The interviewers were interested in technical and other things... he was interested in the heart and what music is, where good music comes from. I'll be thinking about this a bit.
 
I hope all goes well for Torrie.
 
Julien