2014/06/26 23:40:12
ns0529
So I have a ATR2500 usb mic form sudio technica and I am currently trying my hardest to get clear vocals!! They come out a bit muddy and oomy eve after eq...how I do I fix it? I kow eq will help but I need a pre solution before a major one any help?
2014/06/27 00:29:02
The Band19
post a .wav file? Before and after your EQ? and a file w/the vox in the mix? It's impossible to say "here's how you do it" with zero information about what you're working with? There are dozens and dozens of things that could be suggested, but with no information? It's a little difficult... i.e., how are they mixed? How is the song mixed? What plugs are used? Are you doing any M/S processing, and if so where? etc. etc. etc...
 
It's like saying, "How do I get a girlfriend, who's hot?"
 
BTW? How do I do that? (and one that puts out, but is not too clingy, or demanding, or witchy? Who is younger, but not too young? Who is interested in a relationship? But not wanting to pin me down? And doesn't spend too much of my money?"
 
P.S., she must have a job (a good job) and be self supporting, and not depressed, or on any anti-depressants, or any other psychoactive drugs of any kind (stimulants, depressants, anti-anxiety or bi-polar drugs) and NOT going through a crisis "of any kind"... 
 
P.P.S., you tell me how to do this? And I'll fix your vox, "Guaranteed..." And I will pay you to do so. See? It's really not that easy..
2014/06/27 00:40:16
ns0529
Unfortunately I'm new to this so I don't know how to post a wav file on here!! Asfor all the fancy stuff I'm just using ATR2500 and SONAR X2 to do my covers. I recently decided to start over on my cover because the vocals just were too damn boomy!! I don't need it fixed for me I want to try it on my own I'll never get anywhere if people do it for me ad the girfriend thing...uh...I'm not exactly sure what you mean
2014/06/27 00:45:31
AT
Well, recording vocals is one of the hardest things to get right.  Big studios spend tons of money to get the room right.
 
I would think, however, the room is the lessor of your problems.  They might be out there, but a good USB mic is a rather mythical critter.  I've never heard of one.  They are more designed for pod casting rather than singing.  I'm not familiar w/ the make or model you are using but I would bet that is the biggest problem. 
 
Think about it for a second.  It is not only a mic - and a decent dynamic mic, even one not made for vocals like the Shure 57, costs close to $100.  It is a converter, too, and a decent stereo interface costs $100 or more.  Both those items are bottom of the barrel examples and I bet your usb mic w/ a built-in converter costs considerably less than either item.
 
But if you are stuck w/ the mic in hand, time to try some technique (which is cheap, except in time).  The usb mic is most likely a dynamic mic, but also has a cardioid pattern.  That means heart shaped, which means it has a front and back.  If it has screen only on the top of the mic - that is considered the front.  If it is a side address mic it likely has screening all the way 'round.   Look for the logo or a cardioid sign - heart shape, on one side.  The sign also resembles the head of a penis that all the kids drew in jr. high.  Use the front to sing or speak into.  Also cardioid mics have the proximity effect - the closer you get the more the bass is emphasized.  If you back off you should notice the boominess lessens.  Live, you see singers "eating the mic" which gives them more oomph for live shows and also cuts down on the bleed from the instruments (it will also have the sound man shaking his head and calling the singer a penis head).  Experiment, and hopefully you can find the right distance where the sound is clear and yet still audible.  This is one reason engineers spend money on quality gear - not just mics that are more sensitive but preamps that can deliver more gain.  If you can find a vocal recording session on youtube in a real studio, you often find the singers 18 inches or more from the mic.
 
Play around with distance and performance and you should find something that will work.  Best of luck.
 
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2014/06/27 00:45:32
The Band19
Still waiting for my dream girl, I will handle all of your audio needs after that.
 
One is about as easy as the other?
2014/06/27 00:50:43
The Band19
"Play around with distance and performance and you should find something that will work.  Best of luck."
 
Or it could be 
 
EQ
Compression
Limiting
Excitation
Stereo Width
Verb
Delay
Saturation
Overlapping frequencies
Etc. Etc. Etc... 
 
"Best of luck?" Without an example, it is quite literally "impossible" to make an honest recommendation. I could make a BS one? But that doesn't get you anywhere...
 
2014/06/27 00:51:00
The Band19
"Play around with distance and performance and you should find something that will work.  Best of luck."
 
Or it could be 
 
EQ
Compression
Limiting
Excitation
Stereo Width
Verb
Delay
Saturation
Overlapping frequencies
Etc. Etc. Etc... 
 
"Best of luck?" Without an example, it is quite literally "impossible" to make an honest recommendation. I could make a BS one? But that doesn't get you anywhere...
 
2014/06/27 00:51:00
The Band19
dbl post
2014/06/27 00:53:35
ns0529
@The Band19 Ok look your dream girl is not inside of my post if you cannot answer my question then please don't respond!! I hate when people always want to trade something just for HELP especially when it has nothing ot do with my problems. I want to handle my own audio needs 
 
@AT look hun here is a link to the mic I am
using 
I am using SONAR X2 and am far enough from my mic as is!! It could be I'm ot eq'ing properly because earlier most of vocals sounded a little more better...but my chorus sounded way to boomy and muddy and I hated it...I'm just looking for a better answer. I can only work with what I have
2014/06/27 01:01:16
The Band19
I'm sorry, here is your best answer for sure, 
 
"Play around with distance and performance and you should find something that will work.  Best of luck."
 
Good luck sir or madam. (Don't worry about all that other technical stuff) And by all means! Don't go so far as learning how to record something and then mix it down and post it for people to listen to and comment on? That is WAY too much work... It is better to stay on the path you have chosen, and much easier. Stick with it and you'll get there.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nbEeU2dRBg
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