2012/11/21 19:59:28
Rain
Kyle Z of Nine Volt Audio shares his thoughts on the subject. 

http://www.kvraudio.com/f...torder=asc&start=0
2012/11/21 20:35:32
CTStump
Quite a great sum up from someone who is directly affected. I was amazed when tonight  I googled Fruity Loops(it's not even called that any more) I had to stop at 8 pages, it was nothing but crack and warez sites.

Imageline's take on that would be interesting indeed.
2012/11/21 20:43:29
jbow
Arrrrr....
2012/11/21 21:04:31
Jonbouy
It's a bit like candy selllers. 
 
They like the idea that putting everything out there in front of the children tempts them to buy and then complain when the kids then remorselessly help themselves to everything in sight.
 
Put it in a box and personally mail it out watermarked if piracy is your problem, then at least you'll know who circulated it.
 
It isn't piracy that's the problem, it's wanting your cake and being able to eat it that's the problem.
 
I'm bored of hearing about it.  Make something that can't be pirated if you don't want it pirated because if it can be it will be, I think even a bit of plankton would have worked out that much by now.
 
I'd rather hear about people making a success of trading on-line and how they do it, trouble is we never get to hear about those because success doesn't need to whine incessantly.  Get a proper job that does pay if you can't make it pay, don't blame the ills of the world for your own stupidity.
 
The whole thing really has got old for me.  People have been saying development of good stuff will cease if piracy continues and I've still got enough good stuff I've bought to enjoy what I have rather than worry about what I don't, that must be 30 years after I heard piracy was going to abduct my children and force me to live in poverty.
 
Insanity is defined by some as keeping on doing the same things and expecting a different result, poor guy if it ain't working out for him then he ought do something else like the rest of us have to if our meal ticket doesn't work out as we perhaps might prefer.
 
Doing sample libraries is prone to being undermined by piracy would be my simple message to the guy.
I should be able to leave my bicycle outside the shop without fear of having it stolen, but I'd rather use my loaf and put a lock on it.  You'd be right enough to call me an idiot if I didn't!
2012/11/21 21:13:32
craigb
Interesting article.

So does anyone have a link to the free samples?  (JUST KIDDING!!!! )
2012/11/21 21:20:10
ProjectM
[CENCORED DUE TO SEMANTICS] I've had a couple albums pirated, 6 months of work next to our day jobs not including the song writing, thousands of dollars for studio rental/equipment and mix and master services, time and money spent on promotion, getting labels involved, getting agents involved, loads of paper work, less time with friends and family, less time spent catching up on much needed rest and leisure time and so forth...

The sales stoped over night,litterarly, when they hit the pirate sites. We still owe money on one of the records and we can see on a couple of sites that it has been downloaded several thousands of times.

Whatever hippie free the world destroy the capitalistic industry nonsense these bastards argue with, it doesn't take away the feeling of having your gut ripped out. Sure, it is to be expected that your stuff gets pirated and thankfully we get paid to play live so we don't face bankruptcy from doing this... Live shows and day jobs, that keeps us going. I have more than once asked my self if I can handle this kind of stuff though. At one point I quit playing music and started composing it for the money.

The worst part is when telling stories like tese to a proud pirate, they always counter when they're out of arguments: The people who downloaded your music probably wouldn't pay for it anyway so your music can't be that good.

Well, pirates are narrow minded bastards and I want to shoot them where it hurts! But what can be done?

The lack of respect amazes me!

And how shortsighted and selfish!


I could go on for hours about this. Sorry for the rant


2012/11/21 21:41:56
Bub
@craigb: .LOL
2012/11/21 21:48:01
Jonbouy
craigb


Interesting article.

So does anyone have a link to the free samples?  (JUST KIDDING!!!! )

Yep, good one.
 
He may just have pulled off the smartest marketing move in ages.
 
Guilt trip at least 10,000 into $50 a pop.
 
What does that work out at?
2012/11/21 21:48:43
Linear Phase
I have to agree with Jonbouy.. 
2012/11/21 21:58:05
Jonbouy

Man, that stings my heart to read.

 
Get a grip, the man is hiring halls and lining up a parade of oriental drums to play with.
 
Listen to some of the stories some of your buddies share on this forum if you want real life heartache.
 
I'm not some hippie condoning piracy, I don't condone piracy anymore than I'd condone someone stealing my bike from outside a shop, but I put a lock on it because I know it's likely to get stolen if I don't. I also learned early if something you get something with out working for it it worthless, that is true in my experience.  I've even bought some library off that guy some time back, he ain't thanking me for that he's moaning about theives.
 
They're out there we all know it.
 
You can't expect a return on something you do just because you do it, if you've overlooked the idea that a sample library is prone to be pirated then you are either completely mad or stupid.  That's how it IS and you'd be mad to operate a business without looking at the hazards to your margin realistically.
 
It isn't a moral issue it's a business decision he's making and if he had a half decent accountant on hand he would also tell him not to bother.
 
I'll tell you what, if anyone thinks this is a heart-wrenching story then all I can say is that you must lead very sheltered lives.
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