jbow


Arrrrr....

Ditto! You can say that again! 


What I found most unsettling was this line (excerpt) from that post; 


{NineVoltAudio} One pirate site currently lists 13,699 illegal downloads of TAIKO 2. If each person had paid $1.00 for his or her copy from this site, it would amount to more than the library has grossed so far. {NineVoltAudio} 


And that's just one example! 

There are many other torrent sites profiting.  That one example shows just how much piracy actually digs into the potential income. 

Sorry for going slightly OT in regards to piracy but mostly the following = 'Unfair Profiting', Abuse of 'Rights'.....  

Also partly explains why some of the most legendary bands have broken up, to name one; The Church (Aussie band)! Other bands still kicking along refuse to release their songs on sites such as; Spot*fy. 

I know that piracy is out-of-control and impossible to completely eradicate yet to add more salt to the wounds and madness to the equation we have legit sites that artist/writers willfully submit to have their songs stream (full-length) allowing these sites to earn millions yet what $hares in the form of licensing and revenue from advertising do these sites such as; S**ndClick pay their artists/bands(Writers)?.... NOTHING!   Other music sites such as; Spot*fy that provide 'full-length steaming' pay very little to artists/writers and now Pand*ra owner/founder millionaire wants to pay less: read this article 


Almost all artists/writers are not earning a living and wonder why; (1) they're not making a profit, or (2) having to pay to be heard/played or worse; (3) go bankrupt, lose the house, the car, divorce (yes it happens).... all whilst mega rich greedy owners of said sites earn millions. Point is; if there was no music on their sites then these sites would earn NOTHING!!


Writers/Artists should simply avoid full-streaming sites by publishing only to; Amazon, CD-Baby along with worldwide physical (CD) distribution which IMO these sites are far more favorable; all musicians serious about their music careers should consider these sites in future.  for example; with CD-Baby distribution you have a choice (selection of retailers) simply 'uncheck; sites that 'full-length stream' for example; Spot*fy, MySp*ce and Pand*ra.  Believe it or not; the sites that are doing best are; Amazon, iTunes and CDBaby. In fact I think Amazon is now the biggest retailer (CD)! 


That said; these full-length steaming sites such as; Spot*fy that earn millions should be grateful but of course these sites are laughing out loud at how vulnerable artists/writers really are and that is the crux of the problem (laws), the fact is; the music business is known to be ruthless and corrupted.... nothing is being done to close loopholes in the laws that allow corruption to flourish!   


I'm sorry for the rant - I don't expect everyone to agree with what I said! Oh well, time for my medication! 


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Jonbouy

craigb


Interesting article.

So does anyone have a link to the free samples?  (JUST KIDDING!!!! )

Yep, good one.
 
He may just have pulled off the smartest marketing move in ages.
 
Guilt trip at least 10,000 into $50 a pop.
 
What does that work out at?

Before or after your cut?

craigb

Jonbouy

craigb


Interesting article.

So does anyone have a link to the free samples?  (JUST KIDDING!!!! )

Yep, good one.
 
He may just have pulled off the smartest marketing move in ages.
 
Guilt trip at least 10,000 into $50 a pop.
 
What does that work out at?

Before or after your cut?

I'm trying to work out what a reasonable cut will be....
 
 
...then I will of course add any required disbursements required to recoup the value of my time....
 
...then treble it...

Do people actually pirate sample libraries?
 
Man, I swear every 6 months I have to de-clutter my drives from all the "The Metallic Cheese Graters of Rumania", "Bangaz from da Hood", "Electro Brain Malfunction" type of crud that seems to accumulate without me even trying.
 
Mind you I'm still trying to locate "Chilled sounds of the putting green" if anyone has a spare they want to sell, preferably in either sfz or sxt format.
 
Cheers.

Jonbouy


Do people actually pirate sample libraries?
 

Dunno?!?! But sometimes when I do a Google for software I get a lot of warez lousy rotten flea infested bug ridden filthy nasty virus sites listed instead! 

Jonbouy


"The Metallic Cheese Graters of Rumania", .

You got a link for that one?

There's a guy in New Zealand at the moment Kim Dotcom who is fighting extradition to the US. He made hundreds of millions of dollars out of other peoples work hosting a file sharing site -megaupload I think it was called. The Hollywood guys are p!ssed.

Didn't the guy who makes Reaper do the same thing- make a fortune out of others hard work? It sickens me actually. Maybe these hosting sites should be forced to check all files before they are put onto the server or something. At the moment the artist has to go around plugging the leaks that appear on a minute by minute basis.

Maybe Cloud Authorization will work and personally I don't have any problems with my iLok either.

Thanks for the link.

I do not think Justin, who started Reaper is a bad guy..  He is certainly not a Kim dot com, and Justin is nowhere near as evil as, "google corp, or FaceData Mine erm book, or Walmart...

Justin wrote Winamp, many, many, many moons ago, and was bought out..  This may have been in 1999?   Look, in 1999, when somebody buys your baby technology company for $400 million..  Good for you!!   I'm from old School America, I don't think we have to fear, or discredit somebody else's fair and honest success, even if its a mega success...

What saddens me is that, "Paris Hilton can snap her fingers, and she is one of the most famous dj's in the world.  She's had several major label albums, she is not even a musician."  

IMHO, Piracy has not killed music, any more than the stupidity of the vast majority of mankind.  It is such a, "jersey shore, msnbc existence," out there...

Strange..  Daze

I thought he didn't come across as if he was whining. Just giving the facts. And if one or two person read that and think twice before downloading stuff illegally, then, mission accomplished. 

I remember getting in touch w/ the owners of a Russian fan site dedicated to my wife, politely asking them to cease distributing her material for free. They had everything she'd ever recorded, even the most obscure stuff, all freely available. They never even replied and the site is still up and running.

I don't even know if those albums are available for download outside iTunes Canada. So it seems to me like, no matter if you're selling hard copies or downloads, the stuff will be redistributed illegally anyway.

Furthermore, many of those small companies probably wouldn't have the financial resources to sell boxed content. 

I don't think the manufacturers are to blame for offering download instead of DVDs or as an alternative. I can't you the number of times I've passed on a library because it wasn't available for download, and in my situation, ordering DVDs was just too complex. Like Kontakt, for example. Yet even if it's only available on DVD, the content is available everywhere on the internet.