2012/11/23 09:20:56
djwayne
Let me ask this question, if current popular cd's were priced at $4.99 instead of $12.99 wouldn't you buy more cd's ?? I know I would be buying them by the boatload, but at $12.99 forget it, I'll just listen to the radio.
2012/11/23 11:34:31
spacey
djwayne you must be an old fart like me. I can sure understand having a problem with how much people will pay or have to pay
for some things. Inflation is just weird on older folks I reckon...BUT...

What the hell does that have to do with stealing? Are you saying that inflation or the cost of an item gives a person
an ethical pass to take just anything they want or can get their hands on?

If it takes a lock to keep a person honest or some twisted reasoning of value to justify stealing....
they need help.....no doubt. "Type" of help is the area I believe I'd have trouble getting agreement with others. I know I'm red with
some things.
2012/11/23 11:44:12
djwayne
Like I said "Who's robbing who ?? " I choose not to buy over priced cd's or concert tickets, and the big boys scream. Too bad, I'm not gonna feel sorry for a record producer who is worth 5.6 BILLION dollars !!
2012/11/23 12:04:38
spacey
djwayne


Like I said "Who's robbing who ?? " I choose not to buy over priced cd's or concert tickets, and the big boys scream. Too bad, I'm not gonna feel sorry for a record producer who is worth 5.6 BILLION dollars !!

I just can't get my head wrapped around what you're are meaning. I mean I can understand not agreeing on a price
for something and deciding just not paying that for it....and one feeling that at that price it was like they were trying to
be ripped off but aren't we talking about people stealing?
 
"Who's robbing who" doesn't matter. "Who" a thief is or how much money they have doesn't seperate them from other
thieves. They will still be ranked in the low-life scum bastards catagory I put them in.
 
One pricing an item for sale or pricing for services doesn't make them a thief when another doesn't agree with the cost.
 
I hear you saying, "that CD is to high priced...I'll just steal it and that's Ok. They don't need the money anyway"...."I'm not
paying that to see Madona...I'll just sneak in the back "and that's Ok because she's stinking rich anyway"....
just can't understand that reasoning. Maybe you're saying.."well they're trying to steal from me so stealing from them is fare" ??
 
Whatever you mean...I'm much like Jon. I get upset talking about people stealing and I don't like thinking about what I'd
do if I caught one trying to steal from me. I also share his view, if I understand correctly, that it's high time for punishment
to fit the crime rather than all the BS of folks having to tolerate the issues of it's persistance.
2012/11/23 12:14:13
Beepster
Umm... $12.99 for a full length CD is reasonable. I paid over $20 for most of the stuff in my collection and some of it was used.

Now there's an interesting side topic. What about used CDs being sold on Ebay or a used record store? Isn't that kind of like cheating the artist and record companies?
2012/11/23 12:15:35
djwayne
STOP RIGHT THERE !!! I DID NOT SAY "I'LL STEAL IT AND THAT"S OKAY" I DID NOT SAY "I"LL SNEAK INTO THE CONCERT"....By choosing not to pay for overpriced cd or concert tickets, you're labeling me a thief, which I am not. I am boycotting high prices by not buying them at all, and here ya go start screaming "piracy piracy." LEARN the difference !!!!!!! Same goes with overpriced software, just because I don't buy it doesn't mean I'm pirating it. I bought and use Sonar X2 but I didn't buy or use ProTools 10 because I felt it was overpriced, so does that mean I'm pirating ProTools ?? I don't think so.
2012/11/23 12:18:58
djwayne
Beepster, you asked that I not respond to any of your posts so please don't bother responding to any of mine.
2012/11/23 12:35:49
Beepster
Meh.
2012/11/23 12:54:01
Glyn Barnes
Beepster


Umm... $12.99 for a full length CD is reasonable. I paid over $20 for most of the stuff in my collection and some of it was used. 

I remember in the 70's when, in the UK, albums were 3-4 pounds. These days they are around 3 times that. Compare to a pint of beer 15p then 3 pounds now. In real terms, music is cheaper that it has ever been. Specialist stuff with a very small target audience aside if you wait for 6 months you can still pick up albums at 1970's prices.
 
So from my perspective I don't think albums are overpriced.
2012/11/23 13:08:57
Beepster
Exactly. In fact in that respect it could be interpreted that piracy has gotten music prices down to more reasonable levels... however I'm sure it has more to do with manufacturing costs going down. In the old days you really didn't have any choice BUT to pay the crazy prices because there really weren't any other ways to acquire quality duplications of material and the labels took advantage of that. I'm looking forward to slowly getting my collection rounded out which is now possible even though I'm still pretty broke but $10 or so here and there isn't such a big deal. $20-$30? Yeah that's just too much. That's my grocery budget for a couple weeks.
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