2012/11/10 02:09:29
noldar12
Well, the forum software destroyed my message, so lets edit and try again...
 
For those of you who follow such things, you may know that my biggest issue with Sonar, and the biggest reason I have not upgraded since 8.5.3 is the terrible state of Sonar's notation.
 
It is interesting that Steinberg has just hired most (all?) of the former Sibelius employees that were let go by Avid when Avid decided to gut Sibelius.  Steinberg has opened a location in Great Britain to deal with notation.
 
I have been very comfortable with my workflow: notation first in Finale, then Midi in Sonar.  Disclaimer: as has been said many times those working in notation are not looking for score quality output within Sonar.  The wish has been to be able to use just one program both for composing and sequencing.
 
This has the potential down the road of impacting at least one segment of Sonar's customer base, and from a Sonar standpoint, this move by Steinberg is not a good development.
 
Thoughts, if any?
2012/11/10 02:57:56
Linear Phase
meh..  it all depends on how you look at it.   For example, "its not a lost opportunity for Cakewalk, if they find it is better for them to: streamline the product, for ease of use, and expansion of the user base."  Sure..  They might loose a client here and there who is, "absolutely going to have notation their way or highway."

I hate to tell you..   its got to be <3% of all music producers, who actually read sheet music and use, "notation."
2012/11/10 03:11:44
noldar12
It all depends on their marketing strategy.  Sort of like ye olde Apple = high end, PC = masses (I have no use for an iComputer).

As for percentages, you might be right, but to dredge up an old pun, it could be 20% - 40% better.
2012/11/10 04:08:44
Beagle
I'm not sure of the <3% of "all music producers" - I would have to call you on that LP and ask where you got that statistic?

I would love for cakewalk to improve their notation.  I use notation all the time myself, but I rarely use sonar's notation any more.  I used to use it when I first started using cakewalk gold that came with a Soundblaster Live! soundcard and then I still continued to use it in sonar when I upgraded to Home Studio and Sonar 4.  

After that, however, I became frustrated with sonar's lack of functionality in the notation department and I bought Finale.  with the exception of minor edits of MIDI tracks I haven't used sonar's notation since.  most MIDI edits I don't even do in "Staff View" in sonar now, either, typically I go to the PRV for edits inside Sonar.

but for true notation - Finale.  never sonar.
2012/11/10 05:10:53
craigb
I use Notepad for notation.
2012/11/10 12:32:45
bapu
47% of Sonar users just want stuff and things.

So I've heard.

Cakewalk can't be concerned with them.

So I've heard.

2012/11/10 12:34:33
The Maillard Reaction
craigb


I use Notepad for notation.


Notepad has 3 bugs that have never been fixed.


&


Cubase is looking better than ever.










Don't know what that means.
2012/11/10 12:36:20
The Maillard Reaction
bapu


47% of Sonar users just want stuff and things.

So I've heard.

Cakewalk can't be concerned with them.

So I've heard.

Content Club =  Qu'ils mangent de la brioche 


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2012/11/10 12:58:33
Linear Phase


2012/11/10 13:01:53
Beagle
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